Need help on SEDAN offset.
Originally Posted by THX723
LMAO! ... look at the top of the chart where it says 'by xxxx'. 

I am thinking of doing something REALLY crazy, but I have to sell my G, as I can't pay for it anymore.
Anyone want a 2004 6MT base model sedan with 28k highway miles? $20k
higher offset = in towards the wheel well.
lower offset = out towards the outside.
Keep in mind, the fitment chart I made is with respect to stock ride height and offset.
You'll want to compensate for the drop in ride height and the associated negative camber. In your case, that amount to ~ 7-8mm of displacement (towards the right). Aiming for anything that's around the 'outside fender line' is ideal. If you can, try to stay on the right side of this fender line so rubbing is not an issue. You'll see the 8.5, +38 I suggested is just a mm off the line ... perfect.
lower offset = out towards the outside.
Keep in mind, the fitment chart I made is with respect to stock ride height and offset.
You'll want to compensate for the drop in ride height and the associated negative camber. In your case, that amount to ~ 7-8mm of displacement (towards the right). Aiming for anything that's around the 'outside fender line' is ideal. If you can, try to stay on the right side of this fender line so rubbing is not an issue. You'll see the 8.5, +38 I suggested is just a mm off the line ... perfect.
Originally Posted by THX723
LMAO! ... look at the top of the chart where it says 'by xxxx'. 

I just purchases some C4's for my Sedan in the following sizes:
Front: 19x8.5 +38mm
Rear: 19x9.5 +45mm
Now I just need to purchase tires for the wheels. I have Tein Basics installed and configured with about a 2" drop. Should I go with:
A) Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19
OR
B) Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 245/35/19
With setup A it may look better because the rear tires are approx. 1.2 inches wider then the front tires, more of a staggered look. But with setup B I have much more of a tire selection because it's a more common size.
Any issues with setup A and the rear fender or setup B and the front suspension? Would rather not roll the rear fender and definitely don't want my front tires rubbing against the front suspension. Any advice much appreciated. It would be great if we had a forum for just Sedan wheels versus the current Sedan/Coupe wheels since the requirements of each are a bit different. Just my .02 cents.
Front: 19x8.5 +38mm
Rear: 19x9.5 +45mm
Now I just need to purchase tires for the wheels. I have Tein Basics installed and configured with about a 2" drop. Should I go with:
A) Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19
OR
B) Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 245/35/19
With setup A it may look better because the rear tires are approx. 1.2 inches wider then the front tires, more of a staggered look. But with setup B I have much more of a tire selection because it's a more common size.
Any issues with setup A and the rear fender or setup B and the front suspension? Would rather not roll the rear fender and definitely don't want my front tires rubbing against the front suspension. Any advice much appreciated. It would be great if we had a forum for just Sedan wheels versus the current Sedan/Coupe wheels since the requirements of each are a bit different. Just my .02 cents.
Originally Posted by darcy5150
I just purchases some C4's for my Sedan in the following sizes:
Front: 19x8.5 +38mm
Rear: 19x9.5 +45mm
Front: 19x8.5 +38mm
Rear: 19x9.5 +45mm
The rear is somewhat more agressive than ideal, but still workable. It shouldn't rub if you leave the rear camber as is after the 2" drop. However, sacrificing suspension settings in the interest of others is not my way of doing things. I would personally bring the rear camber up back closer to at least -1.8* or less and use a some fender rolling/cutting to boot.
Now I just need to purchase tires for the wheels. I have Tein Basics installed and configured with about a 2" drop. Should I go with:
A) Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19
OR
B) Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 245/35/19
A) Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19
OR
B) Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 245/35/19
On the other hand B's got two issues. If you are looking to run 245/245 non-staggered setup F-R, then why didn't you just use 8.5" wide wheels all around? That'll give you the luxury of rotating tires in any possible combinations.
The other issues being the 245 for the rear 9.5" wide wheel is also too narrow. I would recommend at least 255 sized rubber on them. 275 will also work nicely and that is in fact how most people pair their 245 fronts.
Originally Posted by THX723
With respect to handling trait ... A's not a great choice as there's too little rubber up front. You'll experience quite a bit of understeer when the car's hussled. Also, 225 is on the skinny side for a 8.5" wide wheel.
Originally Posted by THX723
On the other hand B's got two issues. If you are looking to run 245/245 non-staggered setup F-R, then why didn't you just use 8.5" wide wheels all around? That'll give you the luxury of rotating tires in any possible combinations.
The other issues being the 245 for the rear 9.5" wide wheel is also too narrow. I would recommend at least 255 sized rubber on them. 275 will also work nicely and that is in fact how most people pair their 245 fronts.
The other issues being the 245 for the rear 9.5" wide wheel is also too narrow. I would recommend at least 255 sized rubber on them. 275 will also work nicely and that is in fact how most people pair their 245 fronts.
Thanks for the great feedback THX723. It sounds like 245x35 FR / 275x35 RR is the ideal setup, anyone know a good bay area shop to cut/roll fenders on a G?!
Originally Posted by darcy5150
I PM'd another Sedan owner and he mentioned that even with a 275/35 tire and rolled fenders he still rubbed and consequently had to order 265's but he was running a 19x9.5+42 offset in the rear, maybe those 3mm made the difference.
Originally Posted by THX723
higher offset = in towards the wheel well.
lower offset = out towards the outside.
Keep in mind, the fitment chart I made is with respect to stock ride height and offset.
You'll want to compensate for the drop in ride height and the associated negative camber. In your case, that amount to ~ 7-8mm of displacement (towards the right). Aiming for anything that's around the 'outside fender line' is ideal. If you can, try to stay on the right side of this fender line so rubbing is not an issue. You'll see the 8.5, +38 I suggested is just a mm off the line ... perfect.
lower offset = out towards the outside.
Keep in mind, the fitment chart I made is with respect to stock ride height and offset.
You'll want to compensate for the drop in ride height and the associated negative camber. In your case, that amount to ~ 7-8mm of displacement (towards the right). Aiming for anything that's around the 'outside fender line' is ideal. If you can, try to stay on the right side of this fender line so rubbing is not an issue. You'll see the 8.5, +38 I suggested is just a mm off the line ... perfect.
If camber is corrected back to 0, is 8.5", +38 still the best size, offset to use? Thanks.
In that case ... it won't be as ideal. Look for +42 offset instead.
But, don't get too carried away with wanting to cut negative camber to zero. 0* camber is not actually a great thing for handling. REAR factory nominal camber spec is actually around -0.6 degrees and up to nearly -1.2 degrees is still consider 'in spec'. Instead ... focus a little more on getting your toe in check. Adjust the camber to match your setup if possible. IMHO anywhere below -2.0* camber is workable.
I personally run -1.8* front and -1.7* rear camber, with zero toes. Tire wear is excellent. YMVV!
Also, front camber isn't adjustable unless you decide to replace it w. an aftermarket upper A-arm.
But, don't get too carried away with wanting to cut negative camber to zero. 0* camber is not actually a great thing for handling. REAR factory nominal camber spec is actually around -0.6 degrees and up to nearly -1.2 degrees is still consider 'in spec'. Instead ... focus a little more on getting your toe in check. Adjust the camber to match your setup if possible. IMHO anywhere below -2.0* camber is workable.
I personally run -1.8* front and -1.7* rear camber, with zero toes. Tire wear is excellent. YMVV!
Also, front camber isn't adjustable unless you decide to replace it w. an aftermarket upper A-arm.
not to threadjack but a ? thx723 how about the fit on 19x8 +38 advan kreuzers with 245/35/19 all around and 350z h-tech springs. Im at 1.6 all around on camber right now and its handles awesome. Just liek to pick your brain as my wheels are due to be here in mid may


