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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Recieved my sways last night. I am going to install them right now!!! I will update you guys with pics and info.

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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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who did you end up ordering through?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by robbdogg
who did you end up ordering through?
Stillen, I finished the install and I am very happy, Quality product for a good price. The install took me 2.5 hours including setting the car up on the lift and clean up. I will be writing a DIY soon with pics. I noticed no one has written one up that I can find in the DIY/FAQ forum.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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I meant where did you buy them? I'm going to go with stillen as well, just shopping still.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DannoG35
Stillen, I finished the install and I am very happy, Quality product for a good price. The install took me 2.5 hours including setting the car up on the lift and clean up. I will be writing a DIY soon with pics. I noticed no one has written one up that I can find in the DIY/FAQ forum.
I haven't done a DIY because it's totally pointless to try and spend that much time and effort to do a DIY when someone already has one on the net that cannot be topped, it's the one I used in fact.
http://liljerk.morpheus.net/350Z/350evo_sways/
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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FYI, you do not have to remove the rear wheels to remove/install the rear sway bar. The 350Z DIY said to do that.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by robbdogg
I meant where did you buy them? I'm going to go with stillen as well, just shopping still.
I got them from Intense Motorsports. They have get pricing and Daren gave me a G35Driver special on shipping. Just type in the notes section on your order G35 driver special and they should adjust your shipping from $65 to $45. My total after shipping was $314.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DannoG35
I got them from Intense Motorsports. They have get pricing and Daren gave me a G35Driver special on shipping. Just type in the notes section on your order G35 driver special and they should adjust your shipping from $65 to $45. My total after shipping was $314.

Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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$309 shipped here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWD1V
 
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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So.........

Originally Posted by DannoG35
Stillen, I finished the install and I am very happy, Quality product for a good price. The install took me 2.5 hours including setting the car up on the lift and clean up. I will be writing a DIY soon with pics. I noticed no one has written one up that I can find in the DIY/FAQ forum.
Danno, what settings are you using on the Stillen Sways and how do they drive? From most reports I've heard on Stillen, Medium is as stiff as you want to go for street use. Let me know what you're finding?

Also, did you order Poly bushings as well (which ones?), or did you use OEM?

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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Take the settings of other's with a grain of salt, and at best as a baseline starting point. You need to end up with settings that are best for you and you alone. What may be good for other's may not work will with your car setup, how you drive or your given talent level. Most importantly, be willing to change a setup that is not quite working like you need it to.


Not that everyone will do it this way, but I thought the following is worth posting.

Written by Loren04Coupe


This is a technique that may help you tune the car. This is the instructions on how to properly skidpad a car. Find a large empty flat level parking lot. Take an object with you to use for a centering point like a cone or a chair. Put the car into a high gear and drive circles around the object. The steering should be clocked at a constant angle and you should not be making any adjustments to turn the car around in a circle. When you are driving, only look at the object in the center of the circle. In a high gear, accelerate in a circle slowly until the tires start to howl. If they aren't making noise, you are not doing it right. If you are not keeping your eyes solidly in the center of the circle, you are not skidpadding right. This is the point where you are reaching the limit of grip. The noise is the tires communicating this back to you. Keep your foot on the accelerator and go more into the gas. At this point, is the back starting to come around or the front starting to push when you exceed the limits of grip? If the back end is coming around under throttle at the limit, soften the rear bar. If the front is starting to push; then if you lift slightly on the throttle, does the front tighten back up? If it doesn't tighten back up, then either soften the front bar or stiffen the rear.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Great info..

Originally Posted by Gsedan35
Take the settings of other's with a grain of salt, and at best as a baseline starting point. You need to end up with settings that are best for you and you alone. What may be good for other's may not work will with your car setup, how you drive or your given talent level. Most importantly, be willing to change a setup that is not quite working like you need it to.


Not that everyone will do it this way, but I thought the following is worth posting.

Written by Loren04Coupe


This is a technique that may help you tune the car. This is the instructions on how to properly skidpad a car. Find a large empty flat level parking lot. Take an object with you to use for a centering point like a cone or a chair. Put the car into a high gear and drive circles around the object. The steering should be clocked at a constant angle and you should not be making any adjustments to turn the car around in a circle. When you are driving, only look at the object in the center of the circle. In a high gear, accelerate in a circle slowly until the tires start to howl. If they aren't making noise, you are not doing it right. If you are not keeping your eyes solidly in the center of the circle, you are not skidpadding right. This is the point where you are reaching the limit of grip. The noise is the tires communicating this back to you. Keep your foot on the accelerator and go more into the gas. At this point, is the back starting to come around or the front starting to push when you exceed the limits of grip? If the back end is coming around under throttle at the limit, soften the rear bar. If the front is starting to push; then if you lift slightly on the throttle, does the front tighten back up? If it doesn't tighten back up, then either soften the front bar or stiffen the rear.

Great info. Thanks for taking the time to post it. This is exactly what I'm trying to learn about tuning suspension. The issue I'm trying to solve is the feeling of my '05 Sedan pulling/rolling away from an aggressive turn. My old beemer felt like it actually "leaned into" the turn, rather than "falling away" from it. (Know what I mean?) Should the right sway bar set up solve (or at least improve) this? -T
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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I am running the rears at medium and the front on the lowest setting. Seems to work great and corners much better. I might toy around with my adjustments to see what I like best. I did go with the aftermarket poly bushings by energy suspension.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Teeter
Great info. Thanks for taking the time to post it. This is exactly what I'm trying to learn about tuning suspension. The issue I'm trying to solve is the feeling of my '05 Sedan pulling/rolling away from an aggressive turn. My old beemer felt like it actually "leaned into" the turn, rather than "falling away" from it. (Know what I mean?) Should the right sway bar set up solve (or at least improve) this? -T
I know exactly what you mean. When I got my race tires on and drove around, I felt that the front tires were biting into hard corners instead of pushing through them. There are 2 reasons for this: 1) equal width tires f/r, 2) stickier tires.

A lot of people switch the fronts to 245/40-18 so that they are equal w/ the rear. This, along with sway bars, should help you get close to neutral handling.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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I am wondering if I am running into a problem now. When ever I hit a good size bump in the road I can hear the bump a lot louder in the front end. Its kind like a knock. Could someone inform me if they have ever heared of this? The car drives great. When I installed I made sure to check all bolts and nuts and torque them to the propper amount of lb. ft. of torque. I am thinking of putting the car on a lift again to check on this. Could it be that I have poly bushingings in the front now?
 
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