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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Anyone running equal size tires all around?

If so, any handling or other quirks?

I knew of someone who did it with an M3 and saved a lot of $ being able to rotate. Handling was indifferent, he said...

Curious of people's experience doing it with the G.

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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RWD = was meant for staggered setups..
same tire setup all around = easy to spin out.. watch, u'll slip and slide in the rain.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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The only G's that would be able to do this are ones with the 18" wheels. The 17's and 19's have wider rear rims.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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i know some smartt guy running 235/35/19's all around


he asked

"why does my slip light keep coming on???"
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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ur friend with his M3 is a fool. how in the world did he rotate his tires? did he take the tire off each wheel and swap them? cuz putting the wider wheels upfront does not seem ideal to me... if the wheels were ment for an offset, u should really follow it. now if ur wheels were all the same size it would be a diff story.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by clinty
Really...How is this so?

The G's suspension may have been designed for a staggered setup. But can this be generally true for all RWD cars?
A staggered wheel setup puts wider tires on the rear and makes the car less inclined to break loose in fast turns.

let's name a few rwd that come stock with staggered setup and recommend it.... bmw 3 series (-xi models), bmw 5 series, bmw m series.

how about more other cars beside bmw or high end euro cars like sportty mercedes?
Toyota MR2 sw20. Acura NSX. Louts Espirt. These Mid Engine RWD (MR) need a staggered setup more than FR (Front Engine RWD) because you'll spin out soooooooo easily due to the weight ratio + rwd. I had my own experince in my '94 MR2 Gen3 Turbo.

how bout regular FR's? Mazda RX-7, Nissan 300ZX, Nissan 240SX, Toyota Supra, Honda S2000, etc.

GOOGLE is your friend, look up RWD + staggered
theory is only 1/2 the other 1/2 is experience.
 

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LIUser
ur friend with his M3 is a fool. how in the world did he rotate his tires? did he take the tire off each wheel and swap them? cuz putting the wider wheels upfront does not seem ideal to me... if the wheels were ment for an offset, u should really follow it. now if ur wheels were all the same size it would be a diff story.
he is saying his friend is running on same size tires allround... so thats y he can rotate his tires....

i'm sorrry but ur the fool...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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I run a non-staggered setup for the track and autocross. I find the car's handling more neutral this way with less understeer.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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I too run 245/45/17 all around for autox. I've probably put 4000 miles on my autox setup without the VDC acting unusual (even in some serious rain conditions).

I believe cars like the G35 are equipped with a staggered setup like this for 3 reasons:
1. Intentional understeer: safety concerns for "Average Joe Driver"
2. Has more appealing, aggressive look to "Average Joe Consumer" (in other words: the latest sporty-car fad)
3. Some mitigation of throttle-on oversteer

Primarily the first reason dominates the manufacturer's reasoning, IMHO.

I personally intend to keep the stagger (diameter-wise) on my daily-use tires, but I really don't think you'd have any problems going with all 4 the same from my experiences...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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I run 275/40/17 all around on my track wheels. Gives the car more neutral/balanced handling, as opposed to the relatively aggressive widths I run on my daily driver 19's...
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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I'm assuming you mean the coupes because my Sedan is running 245/35/19 all around
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dkhuynh
A staggered wheel setup puts wider tires on the rear and makes the car less inclined to break loose in fast turns.

let's name a few rwd that come stock with staggered setup and recommend it.... bmw 3 series (-xi models), bmw 5 series, bmw m series.
bmw 3 series non-sports package does not come with staggered setting so is 5 series
staggered setting is safer for most people because it will understeer, but as you can see most people likes to track thier car all 4 same setting will be more fun and better handle
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
I run 275/40/17 all around on my track wheels. Gives the car more neutral/balanced handling, as opposed to the relatively aggressive widths I run on my daily driver 19's...
wow...275s fit in front? Hmmm....
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Yup. Specs and a couple pics on my cardomain...
 
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