Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
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Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
OK G35 experts. Who makes a better anti-sway bar -- Nismo or eibach? Does either one of them come with high performace bushings?
Who makes the best exhaust sustem -- Nismo, Black Cat, etc.. Should I consider true duals exhaust or oem style?
Who makes a good set of springs? Why would anyone consider coil overs? I have no idea. Looking for advice.
G35 Coupe Auto Silver/Blk Nav, XM, Aero Body Kit
Who makes the best exhaust sustem -- Nismo, Black Cat, etc.. Should I consider true duals exhaust or oem style?
Who makes a good set of springs? Why would anyone consider coil overs? I have no idea. Looking for advice.
G35 Coupe Auto Silver/Blk Nav, XM, Aero Body Kit
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
I am not familiar with the Nismo set up, but the Eibach is an adjustable style and is currrently available.
PART# DESCRIPTION QTY
6364.320F FRONT BAR - 35MM 1
6364.320R REAR BAR - 22MM 1
6364.320HK 6364.320 HARDWARE KIT 1
ES5727.02 350Z FRONT BUSHING - 35MM 2
ES5728.02 350Z REAR BUSHING - 22MM 2
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PART# DESCRIPTION QTY
6364.320F FRONT BAR - 35MM 1
6364.320R REAR BAR - 22MM 1
6364.320HK 6364.320 HARDWARE KIT 1
ES5727.02 350Z FRONT BUSHING - 35MM 2
ES5728.02 350Z REAR BUSHING - 22MM 2
Thank you,
Discount Tire Direct
(888)459-4080 mention G35driver
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
Do you mean the fronts are 2 and the rears are 3? I hope I understand that to be what you meant? Sorry if I sound dumb, my weeding is on the 27th and it is really crunch time for everything-brain is on overload!!!
03.5 Sedan/B. Silver/Prem/Winter/Aero/Tint/Rims
69 Chevelle Hard Top BB/4.11's/Posi
03.5 Sedan/B. Silver/Prem/Winter/Aero/Tint/Rims
69 Chevelle Hard Top BB/4.11's/Posi
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
Cusco or the EVO350 front and rear adjustable set.
Here are all the specs between the brands to make a informed decision.
Nismo:
front- *36mm (hollow core design, like the stock bar)
rear- *22mm (hollow core design)
*However the this same person got different measurement's than I got when I used a dial caliper on the stock bars. So I have to question the accuracy of the above measurements. But their all I could find.
Cusco sway bar
35mm front (solid, not hollow)
22mm rear (solid,not hollow)
Front sway bar has two settings of 20% and 37% stiffer then stock
Rear sway bar is 73% stiffer then stock.
$395 shipped (limited time offer)
Stillen 5-way adjustable bars
35mm front 22mm rear (converting from 1 3/8" & 7/8")
Adjustment range 7% to 70% (unknown if both front and rear bars have the same full 7% to 70% range)
$479
Mines Sway bars
Front 20% stiffer rear 30% stiffer
$699.00(OUCH!)
Eibach specs from Eibach.com
34mm hollow front 22mm hollow rear
Front bar may be dual adjustable, rear bar is dual adjustable
350EVO Sway bars 3-way adjustable
34mm front and 23mm rear.
$545 shipped
Front bar
middle adjustment 11% stiffer
stiff adjustment 33% stiffer
Rear bar
middle adjustment 25% stiffer
stiff adjustment 53% stiffer
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
Here are all the specs between the brands to make a informed decision.
Nismo:
front- *36mm (hollow core design, like the stock bar)
rear- *22mm (hollow core design)
*However the this same person got different measurement's than I got when I used a dial caliper on the stock bars. So I have to question the accuracy of the above measurements. But their all I could find.
Cusco sway bar
35mm front (solid, not hollow)
22mm rear (solid,not hollow)
Front sway bar has two settings of 20% and 37% stiffer then stock
Rear sway bar is 73% stiffer then stock.
$395 shipped (limited time offer)
Stillen 5-way adjustable bars
35mm front 22mm rear (converting from 1 3/8" & 7/8")
Adjustment range 7% to 70% (unknown if both front and rear bars have the same full 7% to 70% range)
$479
Mines Sway bars
Front 20% stiffer rear 30% stiffer
$699.00(OUCH!)
Eibach specs from Eibach.com
34mm hollow front 22mm hollow rear
Front bar may be dual adjustable, rear bar is dual adjustable
350EVO Sway bars 3-way adjustable
34mm front and 23mm rear.
$545 shipped
Front bar
middle adjustment 11% stiffer
stiff adjustment 33% stiffer
Rear bar
middle adjustment 25% stiffer
stiff adjustment 53% stiffer
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
At the time I got my info on the Eibach bars, their was conflicting info on the front bars adjustability range between the 2 tech's I spoke to. Both of them were tech's, only one of them was deeper inside the company R&D department. Still I didn't feel comfortable enough to state things as fact on the front bar. It was either 2 way or 3 way. Still, it's only 34mm hollow, several other bar set's are going to offer greater stiffness and justify their price difference.
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
Our cars understeer(push) from the factory. For this reason, we need more adjustment(stiffness) in the rear bar in the front. There is enough body roll that I think a bigger front bar will have a benefit, but it doesn't have to be a lot stiffer. Keep in mind if you over stiffen the front you will lose turn-in. Having a smaller front bar is a plus, not a minus from me when looking at aftermarket sway bars. I want my car perfectly neutral, so I chose the Eibach bars.
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
04' G35 Coupe(finally in the garage)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
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Re: Nismo or Eibach Anti Sway bar
My car is neutral. I wanted the most whole car bar stiffness as the stock car's roll rate is way to high. Cusco's set at max stiffness in the front still yielded me a net front to rear bar stiffness change of 37% to the rear, negating my understeer. No snap oversteer, drop throttle oversteer does occur on high speed corners, but it does so very politely and comes back in line as I scrub speed. Turn in performance is greater as is the tossible nature of the car, much more enjoyable to drive. Knowing how close I'm at to oversteer, their's no way I'd give up my front bar stiffness for the lessor 20% stiffer setting, I'm not into that kind of drifting. Which I can do now as it is.
Your analysis on reducing turn in only applies to increasing front bar diameter over any rear bar increase. That's why it's important to look at the specs I post on bar diameters and stiffness. Since the Cusco's as I mentioned, transfer 37% bar stiffness to the rear on my setup, this net's me improved turn in performance since, increasing the rear bar diameter and leverage, more cornering force is applied to the outside wheels. Thus forcing the car to "turn-in" better.
Your right for wanting the adjustability, but I don't see the 350Z people that track their car or push it really hard handling wise, lining up for the Eibach bars, their going with the EVO350 bar sets for the same reason I would, greater whole car roll control and the same adjustability. I took a gamble with the Cusco's non adjustable rear bar, I initially thought that it's 73% increase in stiffness might be to much. I'm relieved that's not the case.
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
Your analysis on reducing turn in only applies to increasing front bar diameter over any rear bar increase. That's why it's important to look at the specs I post on bar diameters and stiffness. Since the Cusco's as I mentioned, transfer 37% bar stiffness to the rear on my setup, this net's me improved turn in performance since, increasing the rear bar diameter and leverage, more cornering force is applied to the outside wheels. Thus forcing the car to "turn-in" better.
Your right for wanting the adjustability, but I don't see the 350Z people that track their car or push it really hard handling wise, lining up for the Eibach bars, their going with the EVO350 bar sets for the same reason I would, greater whole car roll control and the same adjustability. I took a gamble with the Cusco's non adjustable rear bar, I initially thought that it's 73% increase in stiffness might be to much. I'm relieved that's not the case.
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2