http://cgi.ebay.com/KENWOOD-P-NAV6019-DOUBLE-DIN-7-CAR-NAVIGATION-GPS-DVD_W0QQitemZ270073545230QQihZ017QQcategoryZ79834QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
anyone get this or tried it out? Im wondering if its worth buying, i mean its $1000 less then the pioneer avic z1 and has everything, if not more.
anyone get this or tried it out? Im wondering if its worth buying, i mean its $1000 less then the pioneer avic z1 and has everything, if not more.
true...i need the bluetooth...but i dont care about the XM...
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I have researched it and seen it in other cars. Very nice unit. The bluetooth and Sat Radio are all available for it with a separate piece. I think they are about $100 for each.
It is touch screen as well. This is what I am planning on buying when the time comes.
It is touch screen as well. This is what I am planning on buying when the time comes.
i mean its basically the same exact thing as the pioneer avic z1, but 1 grand cheaper.....i think im going to go with this
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anyone get this or tried it out? Im wondering if its worth buying, i mean its $1000 less then the pioneer avic z1 and has everything, if not more.
I have the Kenwood DDX6019 an it's pretty sweet, but I bought the x-tra option (at Mobileone audio) to upgrade at no cost (up to 1 year) and now have decided to get the Pioneer; a friend has one and it's much better than my kenwood IMO... The difference is about $800; I get every penny back on the Kenwood as long as it has no scaratches etc. and I have the original box so I am ready, just waiting for Feb. 1st payroll to come around; I spent too much over the holidays and wont dip savings for the $800.Originally Posted by mastarip
http://cgi.ebay.com/KENWOOD-P-NAV601...QQcmdZViewItemanyone get this or tried it out? Im wondering if its worth buying, i mean its $1000 less then the pioneer avic z1 and has everything, if not more.
Things I don't like about the 6019:
-Display not bright enough on sunny days
-Display will not dim enough at night
-No screen saver
-No Bluetooth
-most features are modular options that the Z1 already has built in.
-ipod control menu really sucks compared to the Z1
-Remote controller is huge; the Z1 has a very small remote that can be attached to the steering wheel so you can use it somewhat like the original controls... (I would like to see the original controls integrated but have found no help or info on that yet.)
IMO, the $800 is well worth the upgrade and yes, I know I can go on eBay or to Crutchfield and get these things cheaper, but I don't like tearing into the interior and the guys at Mobile one have done many; they do nice work there, it just costs a little more so I get it all in one place then drive away when it's all done.
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Things I don't like about the 6019:
-Display not bright enough on sunny days
-Display will not dim enough at night
-No screen saver
-No Bluetooth
-most features are modular options that the Z1 already has built in.
-ipod control menu really sucks compared to the Z1
-Remote controller is huge; the Z1 has a very small remote that can be attached to the steering wheel so you can use it somewhat like the original controls... (I would like to see the original controls integrated but have found no help or info on that yet.)
IMO, the $800 is well worth the upgrade and yes, I know I can go on eBay or to Crutchfield and get these things cheaper, but I don't like tearing into the interior and the guys at Mobile one have done many; they do nice work there, it just costs a little more so I get it all in one place then drive away when it's all done.
Originally Posted by htownboy
I have the Kenwood DDX6019 an it's pretty sweet, but I bought the x-tra option (at Mobileone audio) to upgrade at no cost (up to 1 year) and now have decided to get the Pioneer; a friend has one and it's much better than my kenwood IMO... The difference is about $800; I get every penny back on the Kenwood as long as it has no scaratches etc. and I have the original box so I am ready, just waiting for Feb. 1st payroll to come around; I spent too much over the holidays and wont dip savings for the $800.Things I don't like about the 6019:
-Display not bright enough on sunny days
-Display will not dim enough at night
-No screen saver
-No Bluetooth
-most features are modular options that the Z1 already has built in.
-ipod control menu really sucks compared to the Z1
-Remote controller is huge; the Z1 has a very small remote that can be attached to the steering wheel so you can use it somewhat like the original controls... (I would like to see the original controls integrated but have found no help or info on that yet.)
IMO, the $800 is well worth the upgrade and yes, I know I can go on eBay or to Crutchfield and get these things cheaper, but I don't like tearing into the interior and the guys at Mobile one have done many; they do nice work there, it just costs a little more so I get it all in one place then drive away when it's all done.
haha thx for the info, as far as buying from the internet, you can have it installed at most places...
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Thanks!!!Originally Posted by cjb1975
u can integrate the steering wheel controls using a PAC SW1-PS
I will look definitely do that and still am going to upgrade to the Z1 due to all other things it does better...
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Your welcome and it's true about the installation, but consider this; Originally Posted by mastarip
haha thx for the info, as far as buying from the internet, you can have it installed at most places...
-you will have to pay to have it installed anywhere (unless you have a real good hook up).
-If you have any trouble with it you can't just run over and complain or exchange it; sometimes that is a big problem with internet purchases and shipping etc; I learned the hard way.
-Considering these things, the difference is not much at some places.
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-you will have to pay to have it installed anywhere (unless you have a real good hook up).
-If you have any trouble with it you can't just run over and complain or exchange it; sometimes that is a big problem with internet purchases and shipping etc; I learned the hard way.
-Considering these things, the difference is not much at some places.
Originally Posted by htownboy
Your welcome and it's true about the installation, but consider this; -you will have to pay to have it installed anywhere (unless you have a real good hook up).
-If you have any trouble with it you can't just run over and complain or exchange it; sometimes that is a big problem with internet purchases and shipping etc; I learned the hard way.
-Considering these things, the difference is not much at some places.
When you buy it from a store, lets say Circuit City...You think the installation is free? They jack the price up alot to cover the installation, but about taking it back, i bought my previous head unit (when i had the celica) after they installed it it had some problems, so i took it back and they fixed it right away, however if the unit itself is fuked up, you gota make sure you got it from a place that accepts returns, no ebay for head units....

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Amen!Originally Posted by mastarip
When you buy it from a store, lets say Circuit City...You think the installation is free? They jack the price up alot to cover the installation, but about taking it back, i bought my previous head unit (when i had the celica) after they installed it it had some problems, so i took it back and they fixed it right away, however if the unit itself is fuked up, you gota make sure you got it from a place that accepts returns, no ebay for head units....
I always use MobileOne in League City Texas, I get the hook up there, been going for years and would hope they treat every new customer as I have been... They do charge more for the service so you need to negotiate; if you don't, they will get list price or close to it... I've seen people walk in and say "I want XXX" and they get the first price, accept, pay with cash or the good old credit card and the deal is basically done... I guess some people don't care about working for a deal and since the guys get commission, I can't fault them for that.
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I got my Z-1 with BT, XM traff, Ipod, Rear view cam, PAC SWI-PS + 55 dollar xm card for 2200. This was from crutchfield who is an authorized pioneer dealer so no warranty problems. There was a coupon from crutch that if you buy 3 pioneer products you get 15% off. Cheapest price I have seen online for the z-1 was 1550 from a non authorized dealer, with this discount the z-1 was 1650. Pioneer is very strict about warrantys and will not give you one if you buy from a non authorized dealer or ebay. For me, the extra 100 is worth every penny.