Bose wiring Q: adding a new sub and amp
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Bose wiring Q: adding a new sub and amp
I have an 03 sedan with bose system, and am getting ready to replace the bose amp (with a JL300/4), as well as replacing the stock sub and amp (ALPINE MRP-M450 400W).
So I think I have a good handle on all the wiring for the main amp (using twisted pair rca's), and splicing into the factory harness...many thanks to those who have contributed on these forums on these topics - VERY helpful!
but my questions is;
Where should I take the input feed for the new sub amp?
The stock sub had it's own amp built in and took it's input from the stock amp (which I am replacing). So I assume I should splice into the HU audio feeds before they go into the new JL amp.
By the way, I am using all 4 channels on the JL 300/4 for front and rear speaker outputs. So pls no suggestions about bridging the rear output
On the Alpine amp (for sub), there is RCA input for Left and Right.
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1936_40304254
Should I splice both front and rear into these? or just take the front signals?
Many thanks for any help.
So I think I have a good handle on all the wiring for the main amp (using twisted pair rca's), and splicing into the factory harness...many thanks to those who have contributed on these forums on these topics - VERY helpful!
but my questions is;
Where should I take the input feed for the new sub amp?
The stock sub had it's own amp built in and took it's input from the stock amp (which I am replacing). So I assume I should splice into the HU audio feeds before they go into the new JL amp.
By the way, I am using all 4 channels on the JL 300/4 for front and rear speaker outputs. So pls no suggestions about bridging the rear output

On the Alpine amp (for sub), there is RCA input for Left and Right.
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1936_40304254
Should I splice both front and rear into these? or just take the front signals?
Many thanks for any help.
Are you using the stock head unit?
If so, I suggest using something like an Audio control LC-8 or LC-6i, located here in order to get decent signals to your amps.
If you splice into the HU feeds, you are going to reduce the signal quality. In other words, if you splice into the rear feed for both the rear signal to the JL and for the sub signal to the Alpine, you are going to hurt the signal quality, and the signal quality coming from the stock head unit is already questionable.
If you don't want to buy the Audio Control, then I would next recommend just undoing the input from the JL to the rear inputs, and using that solely for the sub input, and setting the JL to 2ch input, which will take the input plugged into the front, and use it for both the front and the rear. You will lose the ability for fade front/rear from the stock head unit, but you'll have good signal quality. You can set the gains on the amp so that your f/r fade is properly set (about 75% front, 25% rear is what I go with)
Otherwise, if you try and split an input by splicing into it, you'll cause problems.
Finally, I went with the stock head unit for a long time, thinking I could get good sound quality out of it with the right equipment. You can, it is possible to get good quality out of the stock head unit, but great quality is impossible. In other words, when I finally switched to an aftermarket head unit, I was amazed at the difference it made. I recommend a decent quality aftermarket head unit; any of the Alpines would be good.
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If so, I suggest using something like an Audio control LC-8 or LC-6i, located here in order to get decent signals to your amps.
If you splice into the HU feeds, you are going to reduce the signal quality. In other words, if you splice into the rear feed for both the rear signal to the JL and for the sub signal to the Alpine, you are going to hurt the signal quality, and the signal quality coming from the stock head unit is already questionable.
If you don't want to buy the Audio Control, then I would next recommend just undoing the input from the JL to the rear inputs, and using that solely for the sub input, and setting the JL to 2ch input, which will take the input plugged into the front, and use it for both the front and the rear. You will lose the ability for fade front/rear from the stock head unit, but you'll have good signal quality. You can set the gains on the amp so that your f/r fade is properly set (about 75% front, 25% rear is what I go with)
Otherwise, if you try and split an input by splicing into it, you'll cause problems.
Finally, I went with the stock head unit for a long time, thinking I could get good sound quality out of it with the right equipment. You can, it is possible to get good quality out of the stock head unit, but great quality is impossible. In other words, when I finally switched to an aftermarket head unit, I was amazed at the difference it made. I recommend a decent quality aftermarket head unit; any of the Alpines would be good.
Dave
My recommendation would mirror that of Caelric. The order of which I would recommend would be the following (if money were no object):
1. Upgrade HU to aftermarket (connecting JL slash amp using RCAs from front/read preamp outs on aftermarket HU). Connect Alpine sub amp to HU's sub-out preamp.
2. If not willing to replace HU, get the Audio Control. This will give you front/rear and sub preamp outs.
3. If not willing to go with audiocontrol using the bridging setup that Caelric recommends, which will cause you to lose your fading controls.
If I were doing your project, I'd ditch the rear speakers all together, but that's just me.
1. Upgrade HU to aftermarket (connecting JL slash amp using RCAs from front/read preamp outs on aftermarket HU). Connect Alpine sub amp to HU's sub-out preamp.
2. If not willing to replace HU, get the Audio Control. This will give you front/rear and sub preamp outs.
3. If not willing to go with audiocontrol using the bridging setup that Caelric recommends, which will cause you to lose your fading controls.
If I were doing your project, I'd ditch the rear speakers all together, but that's just me.
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many thanks for the comments guys - very informative and very useful. Exactly the kind of info I was chasing.
I'll check into the audio control, and consider the rear speaker alternatives - eventually I think I will replace the HU, but not right now...
Again - many thanks
I'll check into the audio control, and consider the rear speaker alternatives - eventually I think I will replace the HU, but not right now...
Again - many thanks
Originally Posted by caelric
If you don't want to buy the Audio Control, then I would next recommend just undoing the input from the JL to the rear inputs, and using that solely for the sub input, and setting the JL to 2ch input, which will take the input plugged into the front, and use it for both the front and the rear. You will lose the ability for fade front/rear from the stock head unit, but you'll have good signal quality. You can set the gains on the amp so that your f/r fade is properly set (about 75% front, 25% rear is what I go with)
The benefit of connceting everythign in this manner is that you can use the fader on the stock HU to increase or decrease the sub level.
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Hi guys, I wired this up this weekend - I went with the option of taking the rear HU output to feed the sub-Amp.
What's weird, is that the Amp only effectively drives the sub if I plug in only one channel of the RCA input. If I plug them both in (both left and right speaker inputs), then the Amp hardly drives the sub.
I know the RCA inputs are OK, because I was using them previously with the 4 channel JL amp setup (rear left and right speakers).
Any suggestions as to why the Amp is not driving the sub effectively with both plugged in?
I thought it might be a voltage issue, but this Amp is supposed to accept 0.2 - 4V [Input Sensitivity (For Rated Power): 0.2V to 4.0V]
thx for any comments
What's weird, is that the Amp only effectively drives the sub if I plug in only one channel of the RCA input. If I plug them both in (both left and right speaker inputs), then the Amp hardly drives the sub.
I know the RCA inputs are OK, because I was using them previously with the 4 channel JL amp setup (rear left and right speakers).
Any suggestions as to why the Amp is not driving the sub effectively with both plugged in?
I thought it might be a voltage issue, but this Amp is supposed to accept 0.2 - 4V [Input Sensitivity (For Rated Power): 0.2V to 4.0V]
thx for any comments
Last edited by andycon; Mar 11, 2007 at 01:55 AM. Reason: additional info
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