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Old May 5, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Navi. Control Unit Relocation

Has anyone moved their Navigation Control Unit to their trunk ? Is this possible (I guess anything is possible !) ??
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Anything is possible. I looked into this when I first got my G. There's like 3 wiring harnesses going to the DVD drive. You're looking at close to 50 wires.
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Holy Crap ! Sounds like a lot of work !!
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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i would definately want to know if this is possible! subscribed
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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I'm sure that it's possible but with 50 (or so) wires to re-route....
I'm going to look into this more...
I'd really like to put Gauges in that location !
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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I remember trying to have the audio shop put a dvd player where the navigation unit was. They told me it would be a pain in the ***.
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I went and checked the FSM to make sure I wasn't exaggerating on the wires too much.

On the back of the Navi Control Unit there are 3 harnesses:
M57 - Wires/Pins 1-24
M58 - Wires/Pins 25-48
M59 - Wires/Pins 49-50
 
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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Crap !!
...now this will take some doing !!
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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What kind of guages would you like to put in there? Ever thought of putting guages ON your OEM navi?

I'm running a UTEC and displaying RPM, boost, A/F, and other things right on the OEM navi screen.
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Kevin,

I am interested in your setup. How did you get the OEM navi to display info from the UTEC? Does the front-end interface actually have hi enough resolution? Lastly, is there a lag between the car and the display? Thanks in advance!
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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First, to do it the way I did it, you need an video-->RGB converter (the ones people use to play DVDs on the Navi screen.

Then, you need a UTEC and an A/F guage (I am using the AEM).

Next, you need a computer. Right now I am using a laptop that sits on the front seat but I am in the process of installing a dedicated CarPC in the spare tire.

There is no noticable lag, and the resolution is fine. The frontend I am using is someone limited, but supposedely there is a better one out that I will start using with my new CarPC.

Here are a couple of videos:

http://www.kptechnologies.com/movies/UtecNavi.avi (Parked, 7.17Mb)

http://www.kptechnologies.com/movies/UtecNavi2.avi (Moving 3.45Mb)

Using the laptop is someone inconvenient, but once I get the CarPC installed it will be perfect.

The UTEC communicates with the computer over USB and the wideband has an RS232 (serial) output, so you will need a serial port. The video is just a standard video out (yellow RCA type plug).

To switch between the Navi display and the guage display I am using a KPtechnologies OK bypass module. It has an AUX output that switches a relay by pressing the 'OK' button in a certain way. The unit also emits an electronic beep when it switches, make the whole switch process very OEM.
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Thanks for the prompt response and the videos to boot!

All of that makes sense once you factor in the PC and RGB converter.
I wonder what the new front-end looks like.
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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once i go FI.. i wanted to do the guages in the DVD location for Nav as well...

is there anyway to relocate it somewhere in the passanger foot area without dealing with 50+ wires.

If it all comes down to it.. i like the navi guages... is there a night mode to that screen? i wouldnt want it to be THAT bright at night
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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The harnesses are very short. You may be able to move it slightly, but not a major move.

When the navi screen 'dims' the image on it still dims, so it isn't bad at night.

Check out this thread for front ends for the Utec: http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266707
 
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