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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Rear Fill in G35 coupe

Is anyone just running front speakers and no rear speakers? Right now, my setup consists of Focal K2 components up front powered by a Focal Solid 2 ch and 2 JL audio 10w3 powered by a Focal Monoblock. Sound quality is excellent but Im just not sure about rear speakers. If I decided to go, I would probably put a set of Focal polyglass coax's powered by the head unit. Any input?

No offense but Im mainly aiming this question towards members running mid level to higher end equipment. Not really looking for Bose head unit, infinity speaker type setups.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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what would be your aim in adding the rear speakers...?

would it be to add specifically "rear fill" in a bandpassed range of audio to enhance your front stage? or -- to just add more "sound"

do you have an active set up right now, or are you running passive crossovers?

is your goal aimed at enhancing front stage depth and width, or have you even got that far?


In the quest for optimum sound quality, many people run fronts only, specifically because adding rear fill correctly in a way that doesn't detract from the front stage is difficult.

I would assume that you are not yet running an active set up, so I would recommend that first before you go and implement rears...

this is kind of jumbled answer, but if you provided some more input on your goals then we might be able to give better advice.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mattyjman
what would be your aim in adding the rear speakers...?

would it be to add specifically "rear fill" in a bandpassed range of audio to enhance your front stage? or -- to just add more "sound"

do you have an active set up right now, or are you running passive crossovers?

is your goal aimed at enhancing front stage depth and width, or have you even got that far?


In the quest for optimum sound quality, many people run fronts only, specifically because adding rear fill correctly in a way that doesn't detract from the front stage is difficult.

I would assume that you are not yet running an active set up, so I would recommend that first before you go and implement rears...

this is kind of jumbled answer, but if you provided some more input on your goals then we might be able to give better advice.
My goal is optimum sq and Ive always just run high quality fronts and never rears. For some reason the guy at my local shop suggested I run rears, I argued with him and think he was just trying to make the extra sales.

Im running passive crossovers but know active is the way to go and will probably be doing that soon. Any products you recommend. Ive used AudioControl stuff in the past and never been disappointed.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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If you want optimum SQ then you have your answer right there. Don't have rear fill. Purpose of SQ setups is to set up the vehicle's audio setup so that it plays music the way it was produced. Just as you go to a concert and there is a stage and you're the audience, your vehicle is the exact same thing.

As for processing, I only used the Alpine H701...got used to it after a while with some help of friends. I liked it, lots of capabilities. I've thought about going with the Audison BitOne, but I'll probably end up going with Zapco DC Reference amps just because you have all your amplifier AND processing needs right there, no need for a separate processor.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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don pisto said it right there...i am running zapco dc amps...full of tuning potential...you can also try the DSP6 too if you don't want to add all new amps

adding rears off the deck will screw up your soundstage...the frequencies played is a very narrow band, and unless done right...it will mess it up.

for more info on optimum sq, i would recommend going to DIYMOBILEAUDIO.com and start reading there...don't post any questions, just use the search feature as any question you might have, has been answered endlessly there....but there is tons of info there...

as for your sales guy...yes, just trying to upsale...upgrade to active first, then see how it goes from there
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Anybody got any ideas or thoughts on the AudioControl DQX?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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It's a great product...Audio Control puts out good stuff. If you are looking for going active, IMO, the AC unit limits your abilities with a 24db/octave crossover points, but that's not flexible if you needed a 12db/octave slope, then you would have to make do with the 24. Sounds minor, but it's not.

With that unit you also don't have the option of time alignment...valuable if you have the tweeter mounted in any other location than right next to the mid...then some TA would be good. In searching for my products, I looked at the DQX but ultimately decided against it due to it's limitations. Flexibility is key in setting up a great soundstage.

this is just my opinion, but I would look into the DSP6 by Zapco.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Time alignment is a must IMO. Without it, hard to adjust the depth, width, and height of your sound stage.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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Zapco DSP6 it is then

BTW, my tweeter is mounted right next to mid
 
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