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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Recommend speakers/amp for cabin?

Need to figure out what 6 3/4 speakers to get, and a 4 channel amp to go with them. This will be going in with a Pioneer AVH-P4200 head unit, plan to remove the rear deck speakers altogether.

I would like if this could be possibly mounted in place of the stock amp? Budgeting around ~$800 or less, but don't really want seperated components where I have to cut up the doors for mounting.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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bump...any help?

4 channel amp that will fit in place of stock bose
4 6.5" speakers to go with it....
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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nevermind didnt see the budget constraint, i would say get the best you would want to go with pieces at a time.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Don't count on fitting any decent amp where the old one was...the BOSE amp is very small & inadequate. Most decent aftermarket amps will be much larger. You can always attach it to the backside of the fold down rear seat. Buy your amp first...shop around (ebay?) & get one that fits your needs. You'll have to get (or make) some speaker spacers/adapters to replace the stock door/side speakers. If you're going to be running them with an amp, just get some good quality 4-ohm components & coaxials...you don't have to break the bank, anything you'll be getting will be better than the stock speakers. Good luck! I'm in the process of upgrading mine as well...
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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I'm thinking of going with some front only DLS UP6i components, and perhaps a 2 channel JL audio amp? Don't really think I need the rear fill and I should be able to get both of those under $800 easy.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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I am running 6 channels. Doors, side quarter panel, and rear deck.

I bought a four channel amp at first and doubled up the rears in parallel (most amps will run 2 ohm stereo), but just bought a 6 channel JL Audio amp. It is VERY small, like 10 x 7 x 2 inches.

I installed it ON top of where the old amp was. I accomplished this by bolting a plastic bread board to the top of the mount where the old amp was. This is so I don't ground it out.

I run Infinity Reference separates in the doors, Alpine mids (no tweeters) in the side panels, and some Kenwood 6x9 in the rear deck. There is a lot of music. It sounds pretty good, and I am rather particular about my sound system.

The reason I went with changing the 4 channel to a 6 channel, is cause I wanted more control for the sound. For imaging and back fill and what not.

Oh, the model of the 6 channel amp I bought is a JL Audio XD 600/6. I got it on Amazon for like 399 + shipping of 20 or so.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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A note that that amp - it's class D, which is great for subs, but the distortion it creates in the higher frequencies isn't great to have if sound quality is what you're after:

Class D amplifiers use output transistors as switches to control power distribution — the transistors rapidly switch on and off at least twice during every signal cycle. Class D amps boast higher efficiency, produce less heat, and draw less current than traditional Class AB designs. Class D amplifiers produce higher distortion than AB designs due to the high-speed switching on and off of the transistors, but this distortion occurs at high frequencies that are typically removed by a low-pass filter.
Using a Class D for subs or even just midrange is great, but for the components up front, I'd stick with an AB amplifier.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrathernaut
A note that that amp - it's class D, which is great for subs, but the distortion it creates in the higher frequencies isn't great to have if sound quality is what you're after:
Using a Class D for subs or even just midrange is great, but for the components up front, I'd stick with an AB amplifier.
So you don't recommend the Alpine PDX series for front speakers? They're all Class D. Shoot, they were up near the top of my amp list. I don't want some 18x12x4 monstrosity sitting in the trunk and these fit the bill on several fronts (size, output, quality, etc.). It would have also fit nicely with the PDX 2.150 I'm considering for my sub upgrade (most likely a JL Audio 10W3v3).
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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I guess it depends if you care about a few dozen cubic inches of space or sound quality more.

For any $200+ component speakers, I wouldn't put a D class to power them. Coaxial and woofers? yeah, D's fine, since the distortion it makes is all up at the higher-end of the audio spectrum that cheaper speakers probably won't reproduce well enough to tell.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Point taken. I am planning on higher quality fronts and no rears, so I'll have to re-do my amp list. I do want small, but I'll look for small A/B's instead. The PDX will still work fine for the sub. What do you think of ARC and their Class H amps?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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I heard the Alpines have a significant background noise.

I have been running the JL XD for a few days now, and it sounds pretty good for Class D. It is a good amp. They have a four channel as well.
 
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Never really looked into H amps, so I guess it just comes down to your ears, but I'll be sticking with the A/B when I finally get back to my car and do my install.

Focal Solid 4, is currently the front runner for me, but the JL G4500 looks great too. Both of these have 100db or more S/N ratio, compared to like 80 or less on the Alpines.

But there's still a few newer-tech class D's that have low distortion and high S/N ratios, like the Pioneer PRS-D4200F, but the $150 premium over the JL Audio one just seems to not be worth the smaller size (and half the warranty).
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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yeah

I found that JL is never a disappointment, unlike other name brands that are sometimes and not other times.

Class D is the Shizzle.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrathernaut
Never really looked into H amps, so I guess it just comes down to your ears, but I'll be sticking with the A/B when I finally get back to my car and do my install.

Focal Solid 4, is currently the front runner for me, but the JL G4500 looks great too. Both of these have 100db or more S/N ratio, compared to like 80 or less on the Alpines.

But there's still a few newer-tech class D's that have low distortion and high S/N ratios, like the Pioneer PRS-D4200F, but the $150 premium over the JL Audio one just seems to not be worth the smaller size (and half the warranty).
The Focal and G4500 were on my list too, but the G4500 is now a discontinued item (although still available). JL Audio's got a new XD line that looks promising. Class D but <1% THD and 104 SN. They've got 3 models, a 400/4, a 600/6 and a 600/1. And they're small!!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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You know the best sounding SMALL amps I ever heard were the OLD School Soundstream, pure Class A amps. Like a Reference 200 or Rubicon 200. They are rather small and sound really good. But they do run rather hot and demand a bit of current for there size.

I found one a while ago on ebay for about 50 bucks. If you go that route make sure the screws are not stripped out.
 
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