Anyone tried these speakers?
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Anyone tried these speakers?
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRO60SE-BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-6-5-PRO-60-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-/130423166635?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item1e5dd396ab#ht_2482wt_905
Thinking of pairing these with a P3300BT Pioneer unit. Upgrading from JBL GTO628s and a Kenwood MP738U. Currently running a 4 channel Kenwood, but I will probably need to get another amp to run a more powerful sub that I want to also get to replace my JL 10W1
Thinking of pairing these with a P3300BT Pioneer unit. Upgrading from JBL GTO628s and a Kenwood MP738U. Currently running a 4 channel Kenwood, but I will probably need to get another amp to run a more powerful sub that I want to also get to replace my JL 10W1
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Those are good speakers.
I'd say 225+
Get a 4 channel that'll give you 300+ bridged and you're golden
Get a 4 channel that'll give you 300+ bridged and you're golden
I have them. Love them.
But buy them for $70 cheaper elsewhere:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-Pro60-SE.html
But buy them for $70 cheaper elsewhere:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-Pro60-SE.html
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a sub is up to you
if you have a little (or alot) of space to give up, a sub will totally change your set up and the way it sounds.
Even a 8" sub will make a change.
some people dont like subs for whatever reason
the most ive ran to em was about 200rms for about 3-4 months
if you have a little (or alot) of space to give up, a sub will totally change your set up and the way it sounds.
Even a 8" sub will make a change.
some people dont like subs for whatever reason
the most ive ran to em was about 200rms for about 3-4 months
I've heard those speakers but I can't imagine they'd sound bad.
Why do you need that much power? Every 3 db increase requires a doubling of power, so you're only gaining 3 db by running 300 watts vs 150
Why do you need that much power? Every 3 db increase requires a doubling of power, so you're only gaining 3 db by running 300 watts vs 150
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Headroom and dynamics. I have 750w on tap for each of my mids.
HA! I just realized there's a typo in my post. I meant to say that I have NEVER heard those speakers....but yes, I'm sure they'll be fine.
Headroom and dynamics huh? Well, to each his own but I respectfully disagree that having more power than what you will use gains you any sound improvement. There are a lot of threads about this subject on AVS forum.com - they are mainly for home audio/theater but the same principal on the relationship between watts and sound quality applies. If you have 2 amps rated at different power outputs, and play them at the same volume and within their design limitations I doubt you will be able to tell the difference in sound. But yes, if your goal is to get crazy loud, then by all means crank up the wattage.
Headroom and dynamics huh? Well, to each his own but I respectfully disagree that having more power than what you will use gains you any sound improvement. There are a lot of threads about this subject on AVS forum.com - they are mainly for home audio/theater but the same principal on the relationship between watts and sound quality applies. If you have 2 amps rated at different power outputs, and play them at the same volume and within their design limitations I doubt you will be able to tell the difference in sound. But yes, if your goal is to get crazy loud, then by all means crank up the wattage.
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Cool. What if you want an 88dB speaker to play constantly at 100db? Ignoring other factors such as power compression how much continuous power do you need to reach that level?
Now let's say your music needs to hit a dynamic peak 20dB higher than your continuous 100dB level, how much power will you need to reach that extra level?
What if you were running your amp 100W amp at it's 100W level to reach the 100dB mark but needed to hit 120dB on peaks and the max the power supply could give you is only 200W? Will you reach that 120dB level, or will it clip?
I haven't even gotten into power compression of the speakers, but think about it.
This is why you hear people bridging amps down to 300W for tweeters, 500W for midbass, etc etc. They are not using all that power all the time, only on dynamic peaks, plus hopefully the power supply has even more in reserve, some amps cap it off though.
Those boston's were made to to be ran with gobs of power. Boston rep told me himself that they open up with the more power you give them and they'll handle take 500w long term. Going from 100w to 300-400w should easily give him 6-9db in output which is noticeable.
Now let's say your music needs to hit a dynamic peak 20dB higher than your continuous 100dB level, how much power will you need to reach that extra level?
What if you were running your amp 100W amp at it's 100W level to reach the 100dB mark but needed to hit 120dB on peaks and the max the power supply could give you is only 200W? Will you reach that 120dB level, or will it clip?
I haven't even gotten into power compression of the speakers, but think about it.
This is why you hear people bridging amps down to 300W for tweeters, 500W for midbass, etc etc. They are not using all that power all the time, only on dynamic peaks, plus hopefully the power supply has even more in reserve, some amps cap it off though.
Those boston's were made to to be ran with gobs of power. Boston rep told me himself that they open up with the more power you give them and they'll handle take 500w long term. Going from 100w to 300-400w should easily give him 6-9db in output which is noticeable.
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Cool. What if you want an 88dB speaker to play constantly at 100db? Ignoring other factors such as power compression how much continuous power do you need to reach that level?
Now let's say your music needs to hit a dynamic peak 20dB higher than your continuous 100dB level, how much power will you need to reach that extra level?
What if you were running your amp 100W amp at it's 100W level to reach the 100dB mark but needed to hit 120dB on peaks and the max the power supply could give you is only 200W? Will you reach that 120dB level, or will it clip?
I haven't even gotten into power compression of the speakers, but think about it.
This is why you hear people bridging amps down to 300W for tweeters, 500W for midbass, etc etc. They are not using all that power all the time, only on dynamic peaks, plus hopefully the power supply has even more in reserve, some amps cap it off though.
Those boston's were made to to be ran with gobs of power. Boston rep told me himself that they open up with the more power you give them and they'll handle take 500w long term. Going from 100w to 300-400w should easily give him 6-9db in output which is noticeable.
Now let's say your music needs to hit a dynamic peak 20dB higher than your continuous 100dB level, how much power will you need to reach that extra level?
What if you were running your amp 100W amp at it's 100W level to reach the 100dB mark but needed to hit 120dB on peaks and the max the power supply could give you is only 200W? Will you reach that 120dB level, or will it clip?
I haven't even gotten into power compression of the speakers, but think about it.
This is why you hear people bridging amps down to 300W for tweeters, 500W for midbass, etc etc. They are not using all that power all the time, only on dynamic peaks, plus hopefully the power supply has even more in reserve, some amps cap it off though.
Those boston's were made to to be ran with gobs of power. Boston rep told me himself that they open up with the more power you give them and they'll handle take 500w long term. Going from 100w to 300-400w should easily give him 6-9db in output which is noticeable.
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Too many people underrate these 4 things when it comes to power.
1. the back ground noise (70 plus dB).
2. the effect of power compression (twice the power required).
3. the use of xmax to obtain this SPL (70 % Bl = twice the power , compared to 100 % BL).
4. passive crossovers requiring twice the power compared to active. Y
5. the fact that the sensitivity is rated at 2 Pi steradians which is rarely obtained with most peoples sad attempt at a baffle.
6. The equal loudness curves
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