Pioneer Avic-X930BT and Stock Speakers
#16
09-16-2011, 12:15 PM
Oh that's what you meant by power/battery wire. Yeah I have a 0 ga. running to a distro block in trunk to 4ga and 8ga for mono/4-channel amps.
I would look into a single amp that can put out 5 channels(4 speakers 1 sub) like the JL XD700/5
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...mpaign=froogle
Alpine's pdx series also have a 5 channel and are pretty much the same.
Or you can have one amp for 4 speakers and one amp for subs to have more control and power. Bass is addicting and I went from a 600w amp to a 1,000w amp. There is no way you can get this much power for a sub in a 5 channel amp.
The main brands I played around with are: Kicker, alpine, JL, image dynamics, pioneer, boston, and if you're not really an audiophile, then most of the brands are similar and it's really recommend anything if you don't have any price range or guide lines to go by.
I would look into a single amp that can put out 5 channels(4 speakers 1 sub) like the JL XD700/5
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...mpaign=froogle
Alpine's pdx series also have a 5 channel and are pretty much the same.
Or you can have one amp for 4 speakers and one amp for subs to have more control and power. Bass is addicting and I went from a 600w amp to a 1,000w amp. There is no way you can get this much power for a sub in a 5 channel amp.
The main brands I played around with are: Kicker, alpine, JL, image dynamics, pioneer, boston, and if you're not really an audiophile, then most of the brands are similar and it's really recommend anything if you don't have any price range or guide lines to go by.
What do you have in your car?
#18
09-16-2011, 12:38 PM
(shameless self-plug).
#19
09-16-2011, 12:57 PM
We couldn't even get steering wheel controls to work either.
#21
09-16-2011, 01:11 PM
#22
09-16-2011, 03:58 PM
I have alpine spx-177a components up front, disconnected stock rear speakers/subs, had an alpine mrp-f550 bridged at 2x250w to the speakers but my speakers are only 75w rms so it was a bit overkill, AND my amp was getting hot so I switched to JL 300/4 bridged to 2x150w. For my sub, I have 2 Image Dynamics IDQ's pushed by alpine pdx1.1000 and they sound great but don't get loud so I'm getting a custom 12" ported box ~2 cubic ft. built tomorrow and going to test my 12W7 or Ascendant Audio Havoc in it (have both right now sitting in my garage LOL and going to sell the one I don't like).
If I were you I'd start with any amp from a reputable company that is ~ 500w rms and a 10" alpine type R subwoofer. The type r is pretty much the sub that's the best for the price.
As for the speakers, many people prefer infinity's, and since I'm still using my stock deck and a line out converter so I'm not getting the best quality signal so I didn't really care what speakers to get. To you, most speakers should sound pretty much the same so I'd just go with any speakers from a well known company that you can get for cheap.
If I were you I'd start with any amp from a reputable company that is ~ 500w rms and a 10" alpine type R subwoofer. The type r is pretty much the sub that's the best for the price.
As for the speakers, many people prefer infinity's, and since I'm still using my stock deck and a line out converter so I'm not getting the best quality signal so I didn't really care what speakers to get. To you, most speakers should sound pretty much the same so I'd just go with any speakers from a well known company that you can get for cheap.
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#26
09-16-2011, 11:17 PM
I completed my DD setup last weekend and I am not satisfied with the sound quality either. See the following for details....
https://g35driver.com/forums/audio-v...ml#post6108964
#27
12-18-2011, 08:28 PM
I've seen this exact story so many times... that is, of course, the reason that my shopping list explicitly says that if you're keeping the Bose amp, you get the PAC ROEM-NIS2.
My real recommendation, of course, is to get rid of the POS Bose amp completely. The easiest replacement would be a 6-channel amp, and re-use the stock speaker wiring (NOT POWER WIRING) to send the signal to the stock speakers. The more flexible but more complicated way is to use a four-channel amp for the front speakers and pick up a separate mono-channel or 2-channel amp to power the rear woofer/6x9's.
If you were happy with the sound quality with Bose, you'll probably be fine with something like this for an easy install:
JL XD600/6
or this:
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5584-a64...amplifier.aspx
eggyhustles is probably going to chime in here in a bit with a few more recommendations better than mine though. He's got a lot more more experience with different brands so I'll takes his recommendations for most audio components over my own
My real recommendation, of course, is to get rid of the POS Bose amp completely. The easiest replacement would be a 6-channel amp, and re-use the stock speaker wiring (NOT POWER WIRING) to send the signal to the stock speakers. The more flexible but more complicated way is to use a four-channel amp for the front speakers and pick up a separate mono-channel or 2-channel amp to power the rear woofer/6x9's.
If you were happy with the sound quality with Bose, you'll probably be fine with something like this for an easy install:
JL XD600/6
or this:
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5584-a64...amplifier.aspx
eggyhustles is probably going to chime in here in a bit with a few more recommendations better than mine though. He's got a lot more more experience with different brands so I'll takes his recommendations for most audio components over my own
I went to my installer with my issues and he swears he followed the list to a tee. So either he's lying, or maybe some loss in sound is still expected even with the right harness?
Is this possible, that if your list is followed, that the stock bose sound can't be completly replicated? or is a new 6 channel amp absolutely necessary.
Thanks for the help, and thanks for the original shopping list.
#28
12-19-2011, 11:28 AM
I purchased this amp 6 channel amp, http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5584-a64...amplifier.aspx I haven't had time to install it. I'll let you know if it changes anything, once I get it installed.
#29
12-19-2011, 02:51 PM
question: i have a similar problem, i don't hear THAT much distortion, only on a few songs. Although it is irritating because the stock system never distorted, never. My real problem is that the sound is not as good and not as loud as as it once was when stock. I followed your shopping list, i gave it to my installer and told him to by all the parts you recommended.
I went to my installer with my issues and he swears he followed the list to a tee. So either he's lying, or maybe some loss in sound is still expected even with the right harness?
Is this possible, that if your list is followed, that the stock bose sound can't be completly replicated? or is a new 6 channel amp absolutely necessary.
Thanks for the help, and thanks for the original shopping list.
I went to my installer with my issues and he swears he followed the list to a tee. So either he's lying, or maybe some loss in sound is still expected even with the right harness?
Is this possible, that if your list is followed, that the stock bose sound can't be completly replicated? or is a new 6 channel amp absolutely necessary.
Thanks for the help, and thanks for the original shopping list.
Seriously though, the bose amplifier is by a great margin the worst part of the factory system. If you care anything about sound quality, kick it to the curb.
#30
12-22-2011, 04:36 PM
It could be the EQ in your headunit. The Bose headunit outputs a very "flat" signal, with a significant amount of equalization done by the amplifier. The settings on the factory unit can't vary the signal anywhere near as much as aftermarket headunits, so even when using the PAC adapter, you're likely to be going outside of the amplifier's tolerances.
Seriously though, the bose amplifier is by a great margin the worst part of the factory system. If you care anything about sound quality, kick it to the curb.
Seriously though, the bose amplifier is by a great margin the worst part of the factory system. If you care anything about sound quality, kick it to the curb.
So i'll be taking your advice and i will purchase a new amp. But is it possible that the bose speakers are already at their capacity? (and hence the distortion). Will it be worth installing the amp if i leave the stock speakers?