My SPC A-Arm installation
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Originally Posted by mark4x4
First let me say that in the Bay Area, Auto Innovations are first rate. They do many spring installs, alignments and come highly recommended by the members on this forum who has used their services.
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.![Mad](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif)
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.
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Originally Posted by aleok
guys i just sent my brackets. hopefully SPC will test them and get back to me soon. i think (if that overtightening is the problem) they should make the brackets out of iron or something, lol. something stronger than thin aluminum.
Are you having problems with your camber arms hitting? I'm only dropped 1" and the adjustment bolt is hitting the top of the inner fender, which I find totally unacceptable. I was told to talk to customer service concerning a return although I'm also want compensation for my cost of installation and alignment.
There will be a thread started tomorrow for a poll to see how many ppl are having issues with the SPC front camber kit. If we can get enough ppl with issues together and bring these issues up as a group, my hope is that something will get done. They would have to address these issues rather than hoping we just go away. We in good faith paid money for their camber kit and if their kit fails to accomplish what it was designed to do then I feel they are the ones who need to make it right whatever that is.
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Originally Posted by mark4x4
I talked to Doug (one of the techs) at SPC today and he told me they have a revised bracket and a new lock down screw. He told me the old design screw was difficult to tighten and when you did torque it down it would skew the bracket possibly doing damage to the sensor. The other possibility is that the bracket got so skewed that the sensor could never be in the correct location to pickup the magnetic signal.
Are you having problems with your camber arms hitting? I'm only dropped 1" and the adjustment bolt is hitting the top of the inner fender, which I find totally unacceptable. I was told to talk to customer service concerning a return although I'm also want compensation for my cost of installation and alignment.
There will be a thread started tomorrow for a poll to see how many ppl are having issues with the SPC front camber kit. If we can get enough ppl with issues together and bring these issues up as a group, my hope is that something will get done. They would have to address these issues rather than hoping we just go away. We in good faith paid money for their camber kit and if their kit fails to accomplish what it was designed to do then I feel they are the ones who need to make it right whatever that is.
Are you having problems with your camber arms hitting? I'm only dropped 1" and the adjustment bolt is hitting the top of the inner fender, which I find totally unacceptable. I was told to talk to customer service concerning a return although I'm also want compensation for my cost of installation and alignment.
There will be a thread started tomorrow for a poll to see how many ppl are having issues with the SPC front camber kit. If we can get enough ppl with issues together and bring these issues up as a group, my hope is that something will get done. They would have to address these issues rather than hoping we just go away. We in good faith paid money for their camber kit and if their kit fails to accomplish what it was designed to do then I feel they are the ones who need to make it right whatever that is.
about the camber arms kitting, i'm not sure i'm i'm having the problem or not. i've been driving very carefully lately, and i've hit like 2 or 3 potholes since summer. and every time it was a really HARD hit, because i'm dropped so low. i'm not having any knocking, that i can hear with nomal driving. but i'm sure when i hit those bumps the arms hit, but the hit was so hard that i can't say that it was the arms or not.
oh, and something else, i'm worried about is this chit chit chit noise. like my tire is lopsided and rubbing my fender. but i know it not. and when i take off the tire on the passanger side, the rotors are pretty hard to rotate, it seems like my rotor is warped but i don't know how it happen. maybe the spacer un-install messed something up. guys got any ideas?
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Since the spacer is located behind the hub, the spacer should have nothing to do with causing that sound. The only way the spacer could cause a problem is if before the install your wheel fender clearance was already tight and by adding the 5mm spacer it would push the wheel out causing a clearance issue. Your rotors being warped could cause this noise although I would also check your calibers and brake pads. Do you feel pulsating when you brake? If you do, I believe that would be caused by the sensor not picking up the magnetic signal activating the ABS. If this has been going on for a period of time I don't know if this could cause the warping of the rotors but it might be something to look into?
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Originally Posted by Aznteazer
so are we getting new brackets?
I talked to Doug yesterday and he indicated that anyone that has problems with their sensors will get new brackets and new lock down screws.
SPC indicated to me to let forum members know who are having any issues to contact them directly.
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"oh, and something else, i'm worried about is this chit chit chit noise. like my tire is lopsided and rubbing my fender. but i know it not. and when i take off the tire on the passanger side, the rotors are pretty hard to rotate, it seems like my rotor is warped but i don't know how it happen. maybe the spacer un-install messed something up. guys got any ideas?"
I was thinking that if your sensors are not working the VDC would activate which means it would show that your wheel or wheels are losing traction, which in turn would apply light braking to that wheel. Whether that light braking would be enough to cause the rotors to warp, it would be something to check into.
IMO, if you have issue with your sensors I would switch off the VDC.
I was thinking that if your sensors are not working the VDC would activate which means it would show that your wheel or wheels are losing traction, which in turn would apply light braking to that wheel. Whether that light braking would be enough to cause the rotors to warp, it would be something to check into.
IMO, if you have issue with your sensors I would switch off the VDC.
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ok, i did some aggratative driving tonight. to stur up any car problems. i discovered that the chit chit noise is coming from both front sides, more on my passenger side, and is not very noticable when first starting to drive, but on the way home its pretty noticable. i am having no pulsating when braking, and braking is normal. i took a hard turn and experianced a "knock knock" from my passenger side (taking a left turn). i tried to replicate it, but i couldn't, so maybe it was a bump in the road. and i can see my steering wheel isn't straight, because i havn't gotten aligned yet.
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i circled the area where the bracket screws on to the hub.
i have a washer that goes on the hub, and then the bracket, followed by the nut with a locking washer screwing on the bracket.
is that right, or shud that first washer not be there? seems like removing that washer before the bracket would move the abs sensor closer to the hub.
one more thing, do you guys have a hard time screwing down the abs sensor to the bracket?
not the screw that i circled, but the sensor that screws to the bracket itself.
even tho the abs sensor is loose, it's as if the nut isn't the right size or something. it takes quite bit of torque to get the nut off till the very end.
i have a washer that goes on the hub, and then the bracket, followed by the nut with a locking washer screwing on the bracket.
is that right, or shud that first washer not be there? seems like removing that washer before the bracket would move the abs sensor closer to the hub.
one more thing, do you guys have a hard time screwing down the abs sensor to the bracket?
not the screw that i circled, but the sensor that screws to the bracket itself.
even tho the abs sensor is loose, it's as if the nut isn't the right size or something. it takes quite bit of torque to get the nut off till the very end.
Last edited by Aznteazer; 11-17-2006 at 06:57 PM.