Megan Racing Camber Arms
Megan Racing Camber Arms
any sedans out there with these on? came up empty handed while searching =/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7750547&rd=1,1
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...=531&catid=108
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7750547&rd=1,1
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...=531&catid=108
That's the lowest price I've seen for camber arms. I think Megan Racing copies other manufacturer's so they save on the R&D (that or they're total crap). I've seen their Y pipes and other G/Z things. I would like to know because I'm deciding between Z springs and Z H-techs. The price of the camber arms is holding me back from the H-techs.
They don't come with the toe bolts though, so I think you are still better off purchasing the SPC kit so that the camber and toe bolts can be installed and you can get the alignment back to the optimal specs.
They sell toe arms too. So it would be similar to a Kinetix kit, with 4 total arms.
I'm local to Megan Racing, and have a friend. I can get you guys the camber arms for $135 and toe arms for $145.
I'm local to Megan Racing, and have a friend. I can get you guys the camber arms for $135 and toe arms for $145.
Originally Posted by 5150DS
That's the lowest price I've seen for camber arms. I think Megan Racing copies other manufacturer's so they save on the R&D (that or they're total crap). I've seen their Y pipes and other G/Z things. I would like to know because I'm deciding between Z springs and Z H-techs. The price of the camber arms is holding me back from the H-techs.
i have z h techs..ill be getting my alignment in a couple weeks..
If you do some research on here as well as my350z, you will find that trying to adjust the toe using a "toe" or radius rod isn't the correct method. This is because it affects your caster as well. The only real ways to adjust the toe is by moving the spring bucket in towards the center of the car, or by fabbing up some shorter spring buckets. If you look at the angle the toe rods are installed, you will see that they affect the suspension geometry in 2 planes rather than just one. A proper toe adjustment shouldn't change the caster at all. Either way, the spc kit is cheaper, You can get it for $210 shipped on ebay, or $240 shipped from a vendor(partshipperdave), or $230 from iap. Your price for the megan arms would end up being more expensive
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Originally Posted by GReddySetGO
They sell toe arms too. So it would be similar to a Kinetix kit, with 4 total arms.
I'm local to Megan Racing, and have a friend. I can get you guys the camber arms for $135 and toe arms for $145.
I'm local to Megan Racing, and have a friend. I can get you guys the camber arms for $135 and toe arms for $145.
Originally Posted by chobble19
DAMNN that sounds good to me! how much with the bolts i need? thanks man
Are you saying Stillen and Kinetix make bad camber correction kits?
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
Last edited by GReddySetGO; Oct 22, 2006 at 05:59 PM.
Originally Posted by GReddySetGO
Are you saying Stillen and Kinetix make bad camber correction kits?
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
for the megan camber and toe arms sounds goood to me
Originally Posted by GReddySetGO
Are you saying Stillen and Kinetix make bad camber correction kits?
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
Do you fully understand caster yourself, or are you just regurgitating info you read from someone else? I have the Kinetix arm kit, and my I am within the factory caster specs, with proper camber and toe specs aswell. Caster as long as it is equal on both sides doesn't really harm the dynamics of the car. Especially in the rear wheels, not the front wheel (the ones used to steer the car).
I just preffer the use of a arm rather than an eccentric bolt. I have much more adjustability of my suspension. Granted it takes longer to get everything set up correctly. But once done right, it still allows you to get your car in spec.
Everyone has their own opinion on which setup they like better. It's all prefrence, I like the arms, you obvious like the toe bolt. It's true, the majority of the people are using toe bolts. IMO the price is probably one of the main deciding factors, which obviously is a factor you immediately brought up. I bet if camber arm kits and the toe bolts were the same price, the number of people using arm kits would be more so than the toe bolts.
If you look at this link for the stillen camber arms/toe arms which are the same as the megan arms, you can see the radius rods are installed at an angle, http://www.stillen.com/product_files/308335.pdf#search='camber%20arm%20g35%20install'adjusting the length of the rod will change both the vertical and horizontal orientation of the suspension, thus affect both the caster and toe, whereas the eccentric bolt only moves the spring bucket and only affects the toe. If you only need a small toe adjustment, you should be able to keep within the specs for the caster, but that isn't a garuantee.
I never said my caster was uneffected.
I said my caster remains within specs, and as long as caster is equal on both the left and right side of the vehicle, it will not dramatically effect the cars dynamics. Especially being it is in the rear, the front tires are the tires used to steer the car and control is manueverability. Changing the caster in the front could lead to some peculiar handling characteristics. But it is the rear we are talking about.
I own a shop, I am an ASE Certified Technician, I've installed dozens of toe bolt kits, and more than a handlefull of toe arm kits. I did my own alignment, I am within spec, I still have much more room to be in spec. The car handles fine, my tires wear evenly, I see no reason you are making these arm kits look so bad. Both the toe and the arm kits get the job done correctly. The toe kits are a lot more simple, I see the arm kits as being more "complete" which is why I preffer them. But to each his own. I am not trying to force my opinion onto other people. Just trying to justify that arm kits do work, and can work flawlessly, reguardless of what you may think.
I said my caster remains within specs, and as long as caster is equal on both the left and right side of the vehicle, it will not dramatically effect the cars dynamics. Especially being it is in the rear, the front tires are the tires used to steer the car and control is manueverability. Changing the caster in the front could lead to some peculiar handling characteristics. But it is the rear we are talking about.
I own a shop, I am an ASE Certified Technician, I've installed dozens of toe bolt kits, and more than a handlefull of toe arm kits. I did my own alignment, I am within spec, I still have much more room to be in spec. The car handles fine, my tires wear evenly, I see no reason you are making these arm kits look so bad. Both the toe and the arm kits get the job done correctly. The toe kits are a lot more simple, I see the arm kits as being more "complete" which is why I preffer them. But to each his own. I am not trying to force my opinion onto other people. Just trying to justify that arm kits do work, and can work flawlessly, reguardless of what you may think.
GreddysetGO, I guess we'll just have to disagree on this topic then. I'm just curious why you like the arms better than the bolt kit. I think you are saying that they give a more precise toe adjustment, is this because you can get more control out of turning the threads? I could see this as being an advantage to the arm kit, as well as the installation would be slightly easier since no dremeling is required. You say the kit is more complete but I don't understand how this is when both this kit and the spc kit adjust camber and toe within a wide range. I think a "complete" kit would have a combination of the 2 sets of arms as well as the toe bolts so that no one piece of the suspension is overly adjusted, and that by adjusting a combination of the three to a lesser degree you could achieve the same settings. I've never heard of anyone complaing about the bolts not being adjustable to get the toe back within specs, so any qualified tech should be able to get the toe to work with either setup. So in your experience, why do you prefer one to the other. I guess my only problem with the toe arms is that its affecting a parameter of the suspension geometry that doesn't need to be to get to the same goal. If the toe bolt method works, why mess with the caster to get to the same point?
