Do I need a camber kit?

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Question Do I need a camber kit?

Hey folks,

I have an Eibach Prokit on my coupe. Today, I had a 4-wheel alignment performed on my car, and here are the results:

FRONT

Camber: -1.6 (L); -1.9 (R)
Caster: 8.7 (L); 8.8 (R)
Toe: 0.03 (L); 0.03 (R)
SAI: 5.7 (L); 5.8 (R)
Included Angle: 4.2 (L); 3.9 (R)
Cross Camber: 0.3
Cross Caster: -0.1
Cross SAI: 0.0
Total Toe: 0.06

REAR

Camber: -2.1 (L); -2.2 (R)
Toe: 0.10 (L); 0.15 (R)
Cross Camber: 0.0
Total Toe: 0.25
Thrust Angle: -0.02

I realize that I am still out of spec camber-wise, but I am out of spec to the point that I need a camber kit?

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Depends on if you are willing to live with some decreased tire life, I would say a rear SPC kit should help out alot, and live with the front wear
 
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Depends on if you are willing to live with some decreased tire life, I would say a rear SPC kit should help out alot, and live with the front wear

Thanks for the quick response!

Is there a way to quantify? For example, "Getting a camber kit could add 20% to the life of your tires?"
 
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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No, because there are so many variables. Depends on the way you driver your car, how much city/highway driving, wheel and tire setup etc. You could leave it and see how much inner tire wear you are getting compared to the rest of the tread, and decide them if you can live without a camber kit or not
 
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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id def. get the cambers

better safe than sorry

tires can get expensive
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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got any shots of the pro kit look?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
No, because there are so many variables. Depends on the way you driver your car, how much city/highway driving, wheel and tire setup etc. You could leave it and see how much inner tire wear you are getting compared to the rest of the tread, and decide them if you can live without a camber kit or not
^agreed.

however, if you have the money...then get a camber kit now. if you don't have the money, save up and get it asap. the spc rear will run you about 200-220 shipped and the front will range from 450-850 (depending what brand you go). while this may seem like a lot now, but you'll be thankful that you don't have to change your tires as often as you change socks.

if you lower the car at all, the camber kits will save you money in the long run. but as the saying goes, you gotta pay to play.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Since the tire savings cannot be quantified, I am just not buying that a camber kit is needed. If you drive like Missy Daisy before a camber kit and drive like Miss Daisy after a camber kit, one should be able to state that your tires will last X% longer. If you visit Stillen or some of the other reputable websites, you will notice that they do not make any quantifiable claims either. Keep in mind that they claim horsepower increases for grounding kits!

I drove on Eibachs for seven years before coming to the G35 (had Eibachs on this bucket for a year and a half). I had never even heard of a camber kit until I started visiting this forum. With the responses I have received, I am quite convinced that camber kits are the snake oil for the G35.

Nonetheless, thanks for trying to help.

As requested, here are a couple of pictures reflecting my tire contact with the ground (albeit an unoccupied car not moving). Those tires have ~ 12K miles on them.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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pics of the eibach drop!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Where would one go to get a alignment done?.......I know it sounds like a dumb question, but is there a good nationwide company you would recommend?......LIke NTB, FIRESTONE, etc....?....
 
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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The Nation wide franchised companies are often the worst compared to oldtimers who might own their own shops.

There are many GRADES of alignments the quick and dirt [just inside range] to the time consumming lots of sweat precision as perfect as you can get it.

Important to measure alignment with your weight in seat as any weight will increase negative camber [full tank and nominal passenger/trunk load
 
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