Incorrect brake balancing will lead to premature brake wear. Again, refer to the specs above. As you get closer to 50/50, you'll notice that the rear is larger in respect to the front. As you get more nose heavy, the rear is smaller in respect to the front. Thus, by upgrading the FRONTS ONLY with Brembos, or ANY larger brake setup, will lead to the front bearing too much load, and premature wear, as well as a front brake bias.

Yes, weight and weight distribution have little to do with front caliper choice; as long as the application is not for HEAVY use, you don't need a super high performance front. However, rear sizing is completely dependant on a few factors: vehicle weight distribution, and front brake sizing.

To understand the importance of brake balancing, try driving an EVO with the STI setup; the STI rears are bigger than the EVO rears, and can be obtained relatively cheap, but yet, no EVO owner will run that setup on the track; rear brake bias is VERY dangerous.Those pictures are from the exact thread you posted above from Zilvia. You're saying our bracket is not worth what they cost. By comparing the two brackets, I think it's clear that our bracket uses more metal, as well as being designed differently.I never said you can't have a standard front caliper that is sized the multiple applications. You pick the front you want, and then you use the rear brake to balance out your brake bias by upsizing or downsizing as appropriate.

 

honestly guys... mike knows what he is talking about, one of the most knowledgable guys i've ever met (beside klumzyee) when it come to other vehicles etc.. but these brackets are priced well for what security it offers if you were to do a brake swap onto our G's

 

Backpeddal bull**** that doesn't talk to the questions asked or the issue that started the thread. First you say it can't be done without wearing through pads like crazy and being unsafe, then you say it can "but" ........ while continuing to talk issues which have nothing to do with the caliper.

Where in all of that that has already been said at least twice did you adress the AKEBOBO vs BREMBO for a car swap with brackets other than to say it can't be done and everyone elses brackets are ****? Ya know the question I asked THREE times? Tell us why AKEBONO's are better for a different vehicle swap again? Oh yes............because you sell them and have brackets made of kryptonite? That must be it because in the end you still condone using calipers WITH brackets from another vehicle which IS NOT as you put it biased for the vehicle in question and we know thats a no-no because you keep saying so.



If the mods want to publicly condone verbal smoke and mirrors here than that just drives home the kind of site they want to make for themselves. Or they are all running akebonos they got from spending 30 mins under Mikes desk.

Propaganda BULL****.

 

the brackets are nice man, dont get me wrong. but how many of the "other guys" brackets failed? Like i still dont see the $500+ cost difference between the 2. i can understand an extra 200 at the most. At any rate who else makes brackets for the G?

 

Since I am the Only coupe with these on my car right now let me chime in. The brakes are great there are a few things to get use to. These brakes stop the g coupe like crazy. My wife drove the car and didn't realize the brakes work so well. First thing she said was damn...

They pulled a bit to right at 1st but they needed to be bled better. The bracket is a well made bracket. I won't tell you what I paid but to have these brakes it cost me plenty.. The pad wear is awesome. I don't like the oily residue it left on my wheels as they were breaking in...

What the cost is to buy these brakes are cheap. Riverside beat my employee discount plus markup. I know what they cost Infiniti and still you guys are getting a good deal....

 

I never said the Akebonos are better for other vehicles, nor did I ever say that the swap cannot be done. I simply (very stronly) recommend against it. We have quite a few customers that come in to complain that they're going through their front Brembo pads very very quickly (under 10k miles a set under normal driving conditions, no HPDE, etc); the root of the problem is incorrect brake bias. Where have I backpedaled on what I have said? I've been saying the same thing the whole time.

What question is it exactly that you want answered? Ask the question clearly and specifically so that I can address it, since I seem to have failed to do so already. Please make a separate post with your question(s) ONLY.

Oh, and I'm not even in the parts department; I don't make any money from selling parts on the forums, nor do I get paid to do so. I'm speaking purely from an enthusiast's standpoint.

 

After some thought it would appear that my05g35sedan is looking to get the Brembos mainly for the bling/show factor, more than the actual performance gain.

If you are willing to put up with unusually fast wear and a lot of brake dust, by all means, please purchase a set off of Ebay or from a user on the board, and mount them on your car. If you are looking for a performance setup, then I urge you to reconsider what you are trying to do, and go with a setup purchased directly from Brembo that is set up for your car, or maybe consider AP Racing, or Stoptech, all of which design sets specifically for G applications.

The Akebonos simply come already designed for the G, and are extremely affordable compared to the other brakes on the market.

I can only give you my recommendations and opinions, the decision is ultimately yours.

 

[QUOTE=The Akebonos simply come already designed for the G, and are extremely affordable compared to the other brakes on the market.[/QUOTE]

Your original post stated numerous reasons why anyone switching non G brembos to a G was a bad idea. I disagree, but rather than get into that again my only question to you that you keep dodging is this.

QUESTION HERE-----> Since Akebonos are in fact not biased as you put it(a caliper can't be biased but whatever you say) for a first generation G35 SEDAN, WHY do you insist they they are a better choice than other brembos swapped on to the G 35 SEDAN? The G37 and 35 Sedan do not share the same weight, balance, and brake proportioning so what makes your akebonos a better choice using your logic from your first post that different weight distribution and balance will as you put it wear though pads like crazy? <-----YOUR WORDS.

Did you find a question in there?

 

A g37(which the akebonos come from) has a 54/46 weight distribution, the g35 sedan has a 53/47 weight distribution. This is why its a better choice than the STI or EVO's which are 59/41 and 61/39 respectively. THIS is why using OEM brembos from those cars is a very bad idea. This was already addressed above, you just failed at reading comprehension. A 1% difference is distribution will have much less of an effect on pad wear compared to a STI/EVO brembo setup on a g35.

 

I haven't read the thread to see if they listed the caliper piston sizes. Let's assume it's the same. And let's assume we will pair these with OEM G/Z brembo rotors. If the piston diameters are the same front/back as OEM brembo calipers, then the bias should be right on. As the brake force to the front/rear is dist by the porportioning valve typically in the master cylinder.

 

Thanks MIKE...........or MIKE wanna be?

I'm throwing in the towel.......you win!!!!!!

If you all think a hunk of metal with the same number and size of pistons magically gives a happy crap about a few percent difference in brake bias.............well then you are dead wrong.

THE CAR DISTRIBUTES AND PROPORTIONS FLUID FOR ALL OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS THERE A SANE PERSON IN THE BUNCH?

I quit! no more posts!

I'm off to purchase a 12 gig double CPU smart caliper with an internal fan that monitors my cars weight and squeezes the rotor according to distribution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, I mean **** what the cars tells it to do............it's magic!!!!!!!!!!

 

Give it up man............no talking sense to these goobers. Once someone writes a post filled with BS they all jump on the wagon.

Magic calipers..........who knew? Do they come with LED's and neon? Where do I buy some!

 

Well I can't speak for the car's brake force dist feature but the porportioning valving is set to a known sized caliper piston area and rotor diameter. Changing the caliper / rotor specs will affect front/rear braking distribution.
Stoptech has some great info regarding brake bias etc..

 

So according to your logic, if you put a OEM front caliper/rotor on the rear of the car, and the OEM rear caliper on the front of the car/rotor on the front of the car, then the proportioning valve will magically balance the brakes since the total brake force is the same, and the car will stop in the same distance? You just proved my point above about not knowing anything you are talking about.

 

to add to this, the 5AT G sedan is 54/46.