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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Akebono BBK test in mag...

hey guys/gals i just found this in the magazine thought i'd share it with you since it seems like a lot of people have been doing this recently and to have a little bit of tech knowledge behind it, instead of writing the akebono's off as just a "for show" bbk

http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-10...mperature.html

granted the tests are on the 350z but i think u'll be surprised by the heat temps, i know i was.

have a great day, drive safe.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Yea I have seen this. Coz has it up on his thread. But good looking out~
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Though the results are really good it fails to explain why that BBK is better then OE.

The rotors on that kit is bigger (more area for heat dissipation) and the design (vane and hat) is completely different then the stock. Both of those will significantly reduce temp on the rotor surface. That being said, the real world braking benefit cannot just be solely benchmarked on that number alone.

In regards to the statement of "just for show" you got to ask yourself whether or not the benefit of a BBK is useful for DD or not. If you track your car then there is no doubt a BBK will be helpful.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Bottom line is 99.9% of Z/G owners will never, ever need more braking capabilities than the oem Brembo's offer w/ good pads, fluid, etc. That being said I just got a set of Stoptech's to replace my non-brembo's.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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^Saw you pick up those Stoptech for 1k. That is an awesome deal! Impressive 1/4 mi times, is that at the same place you go to?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Yeah, it took me about 40 seconds to pull the trigger at that price lol. The PB was at a track I went to for the first time in FAR NE MD. It is about 2 hours from my house.....actually about 40 mins from Philly. The DA was -1000'!!!! You can go years and not see conditions like that. I'll probably make a shot or two at 12's, but I don't want to switch to another clutch set-up and plan to move on to more hpde oriented racing.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Wow DA of -1000 is ridiculous. Whenever my car gets done....I'll give it a few runs at the drag and get some time up in the top 25 charts. Yeah... I know it's almost like cheating but no one said no. Also gotta get some practice in with the new clutch and especially the FD. I tried launching it a few times prior to the build and all I can say is the FD makes it quite sensitive to launch but what a difference when it hooks up right.

Same here, HPDE is where the fun is at and where I'll be focusing my spare time on.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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hey guys/gals i just found this in the magazine thought i'd share it with you since it seems like a lot of people have been doing this recently and to have a little bit of tech knowledge behind it, instead of writing the akebono's off as just a "for show" bbk
Aw come on. Lets be honest. I know probably the majority put BBKs on their cars for "just show." I know i did!!!

The OEM brakes on my G35 Sedan with 19" wheels looked ridiculous.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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The reason these are seen as not a serious set-up for the track isn't the components in the kit, it is the total lack of off the shelf race oriented brake pads for them. There is a reason that most (not all) track oriented cars stick with factory brembo's, stoptechs with st40 calipers, AP, etc is because there are many, many track compounds available off the shelf.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Bottom line is 99.9% of Z/G owners will never, ever need more braking capabilities than the oem Brembo's offer w/ good pads, fluid, etc. That being said I just got a set of Stoptech's to replace my non-brembo's.
How about I just hate the look of the non-brembo brakes they put on the Sport sedans??? plus they suck. I had the OEM pads replaced at less than 17k and that was just regular driving...no track.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Well, I agree. The non-brembos leave a lot to be desired in terms or looks and performance. Like I said, I just bought some stoptech's for the front of my car, but it was based solely on upcoming track days. I found with the right pads....the non-brembos offer fairly good braking at the expense of durability. It's a give and take.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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The thing is, the Akebono kit is nice. But you'll only need the heat sink capabilities every once in blue moon (if at all). But the 28lb+ front rotors will be slowing you down all day/every day. 2pc rotors are a must IMHO
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The thing is, the Akebono kit is nice. But you'll only need the heat sink capabilities every once in blue moon (if at all). But the 28lb+ front rotors will be slowing you down all day/every day. 2pc rotors are a must IMHO
Hopefully I'll have the 2pc in by the time I go to my first track event with the G.. April 30 @ Thunderhill. Looks like Racing Brake has them slated for a late February release. My Akebonos have been sitting in my garage since November.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Agreed with Jeff92se. The extra weight on the spinning rotors is highly detrimental to performance. I've done a couple of dyno testing when I installed my 2-piece rotors and the gains you get from installing lightweight rotors are quite dramatic. Almost no bolt on mods will give you the type of gains this will.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gabe3d
Agreed with Jeff92se. The extra weight on the spinning rotors is highly detrimental to performance. I've done a couple of dyno testing when I installed my 2-piece rotors and the gains you get from installing lightweight rotors are quite dramatic. Almost no bolt on mods will give you the type of gains this will.
If the G37 guys went with the 370z forged wheels and went with the 2pc rotors for their oem Akebonos, I think they could save a good 10-10lbs per front wheel. That is way signficant considering a good set of Volks is $3000+ new.
 
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