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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:25 AM
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OEM 05 Sedan Brakes/Rotors

When I picked up my car from the dealer, they did a "brake service" Not sure if it included rotors, but at least pads.

I can easily get them to warp if I have to hard stop, not even fully stop just have to give a little braking, I try not to hold on the brake so that the pads can cool, but when you are in traffic you cant really do that, it does it so easily its a joke...

I can get rid of the warping by doing a few 40-0 stops or so. And its gone.

Are OEM's really this bad? Every single time I take a hard, semi hard stop I get pissed at the warpage.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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When I picked up my car from the dealer, they did a "brake service" Not sure if it included rotors, but at least pads.

I can easily get them to warp if I have to hard stop, not even fully stop just have to give a little braking, I try not to hold on the brake so that the pads can cool, but when you are in traffic you cant really do that, it does it so easily its a joke...

I can get rid of the warping by doing a few 40-0 stops or so. And its gone.

Are OEM's really this bad? Every single time I take a hard, semi hard stop I get pissed at the warpage.
What dealership did you go to?

As for rotors, NO, that is not normal. Chances are your rotors are warped. Perhaps you didnt have the rotors "cut" and/or they were not replaced.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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5am typing ftw. Lol

When picked up my car this was in may of 09. Its was fine untill a few months ago I took off one of my wheels few days agi and I got about 3mm before the wear indicators. As it wears it gets worse. I hear the oem pads are bad but Damn. I need to do a couple of quick. Stops. Before I pick up people..


I fear of allignment and suspension damage now after looking into if it can damage.


It would seem the oem pads transfer material. Way too easy.


 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Rotors look glazed
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Oh? I don't have any noise or anything just warpping. How could I find out if its glazed?

I need to measure the thickness they might of been machined once before.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Oh? I don't have any noise or anything just warpping. How could I find out if its glazed?

I need to measure the thickness they might of been machined once before.
They haven't been turned from that pic..

Glazed =

http://www.raceshopper.com/tech.shtml#brake_pad_glazing

how to tell your rotor is glazed = look how "reflective" your rotor is. The more reflection the higher chance of glazing. When your rotor looks rough it's in better shape (rough as in metalic view, if it looks like a mirror your rotors are glazed.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Hmm interesting ill take more pics. But that also explains the juddering. But I find it very odd that I would of overheated them. The worst I have done on the brakes was a slowdown from 100 to like 30 from dragging at the track. Then let them cool for 10min before I went again. I mostly do highway driving so this is bothering me how they overheated lol.

So I need to machine them to fix em?
 

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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Your OEM brakes are not designed for track use. Stopping from 100mph to 30 is mostly a 1-2 count deal. Basically you either need new ones, or turn them.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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easy fix:turn or resurface the rotors
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NMG-4
easy fix:turn or resurface the rotors
Doesn't always work...

I had a run where I shut down from 130 to 20 and the rotors were gone to ****

I turned them and still nothing, problem is when you overheat the rotors you change the properties of the metal. By doing so the friction surface is not as "rough" as it needs to be.

Think of it as forging, you heat a metal then bang the crap out of it to gain strength. By doing so you are compressing all the molecules closer together and creating a better metal (for strength). But by compressing the molecules you are removing that pourous material therefore limiting the friction surface.

Would the rotors be stronger, yes. Provide more braking, No.


Truly depends if the metals took that much damage, the cheapest thing to do screensavers is to try and turn the rotors, if that does not work, it's time for new ones.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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Turning rotors are like what 25-30 bucks each? I dont have the tools for brakes though bleh.

I feel the OEM rotors should be ok with a 100-30 with proper cooling in between runs..ect weird, How the fuu do people on here Auto X on them lol.

Prob going to look into some Slotted Good brand Rotors if/when I do switch. Damn glazing there not donuts!
Thanks for the help Eric!
 

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Turning rotors are like what 25-30 bucks each? I dont have the tools for brakes though bleh.

I feel the OEM rotors should be ok with a 100-30 with proper cooling in between runs..ect weird, How the fuu do people on here Auto X on them lol.

Prob going to look into some Slotted Good brand Rotors if/when I do switch. Damn glazing there not donuts!
Thanks for the help Eric!
60-30 is a big difference than 100 - 30 if you're really in miami call me, ill help you out with your car... I have plenty of tools
 

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Originally Posted by Eric@TCGMiami
Your OEM brakes are not designed for track use. Stopping from 100mph to 30 is mostly a 1-2 count deal. Basically you either need new ones, or turn them.
Originally Posted by Eric@TCGMiami
60-30 is a big difference than 100 - 30

3xx xxxxxxx if you're really in miami call me, ill help you out with your car... I have plenty of tools
Thanks for all the help, Got your number so you can edit it out if you would like
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 02:33 AM
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Ty

Txt me so I save you sir.... I'm by club space so ill be up all night
 
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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A Big Thanks to Eric@TCGMiami! He is a very nice and cool dude!

He helped me out tremendously.

We got my Front Rotors resurfaced and sanded the pads a little bit. Now when I brake its as smooth as butter.

yay for macro mode

 
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