wow guys, i'm planning to order stance gr+ true type this week. But i got an offer with HKS hipermax 3 sport used for couple of thousand miles. The spring rate on these is 11/12 and gr+: 11/5
My goal is to keep them for couple of years for most DD but little drifting and AutoX.
What do you guys recommend? i did many research on gr+ but not HKS 3.
Most of people say getting HKS from gr+ is an upgrade but i haven't done many research.
Are the HKS hipermax3 sport too stiff for DD? strong shocks to withstand abuse? anyone have shock dyno?

thankz

 

Just an FYI, that 5k spring rate is for a true coilover type. Compare it to the OEM type that the HKS has it's approx 8k. You can always swap the springs on the rear for the Stance to an 8k and it will be approx 13k in the rear after the swap.

I haven't owned the sport version of the Hypermax 3's but I have owned the street. I am also currently a Stance GR+ owner. Only reason being that I need true type coilovers.

If it were me, I'd stick with the HKS unless you need true coilovers (to run toe arms for extreme negative camber) but I doubt you will based on what you mentioned.

It will be easier to sell the Stance IMO down the line because you will sell them at a lower cost than the HKS probably and more people will be able to afford it.

I'm going to take a guess and say the HKS is a better built product because of the R&D that goes into it and it's not like most other shocks, whereas the Stance is similar to Megan Racing, BC, etc. Those companies pretty much use the same parts, maybe a few are different and the spring rate, pre-load, dampening, and colors are different, but they don't differ much like the HKS differs from them.

 

i didn't know you can get stiffer springs on the gr+ rear for true type.
You know changing the toe arm changes the suspension geometry. Why didn't you go with SPL midlink then you wouldn't have to go with true type
Are the HKS hipermax 3 sport worth it so that i can buy used from the guy who is in different state?

 

I needed a toe arm so I can adjust the toe to bring it to spec. Otherwise with my extreme negative camber (almost -8) I would eat through tires within a matter of a couple weeks.

You can actually swap the springs on the HKS as well or any coilover for that matter to a stiffer spring rate. Thing is that you can't have a drastic change, say from 7k to a 13k spring rate, because you would have to get the shocks revalved.

I would say the HKS is worth it, but what's the price difference you're looking at? If it's huge I'd go with whichever is cheaper. I'm pleased with my Stance, but if the HKS was a true coilover I'd go with that (would also like if I had the sport at the time instead of the street version).

I think I saw someone selling some Bilstein PSS9's for a good deal. Those are great coilovers from what I hear. If you can find some Impul Ohlins, think I've seen a set in the marketplace, I'd even consider those if it's within your budget. The HKS won't come close to comparing to it and I believe the Bilstein's are the same, except the advantage the Ohlins has over the Bilstein's is that the Ohlins can be used more for track. It's comfortable on the road, very comfortable, more than the HKS street, but the PSS9 provide a smoother ride.

 

stop giving me more choices lol i have enough heartbreaking decision to make.
The used ones are about a hundred dollars more than gr+. The HKS is not true coilover.
Did you feel a difference when you changed the suspension geometry? lol
do you feel like stance can withstand abuse? I think they can from how low you aare lol

 

I can't make a direct comparison because I went from OEM 19's with a good amount of rubber with normal camber to a sh*tload of negative camber and super stretch tires. I'm sure there was probably a change, but it wasn't too much different but I don't track the car at all, just daily drive it. I haven't been able to drive hard with the Stance so I can't really comment on that. Right now I still need some tweaking because I lowered it more all around and the fronts bottom out often. I'd say they could handle the abuse but the HKS probably more.

If you're not going to track that often and it's mainly for daily driving, I'd go with the Stance since they'll be new.

 

if the preloaded has been adjusted, will I not be able to go back to factory preload without getting corner balanced?

 

Pre-load is adjust by how much slack there is on the spring portion. To my knowledge you should be able to move the spring with your hand. If you can't, loosen it up. IMO you don't have to have it exactly like how it came if you were to buy new. Close enough is good enough without having the need to corner balance.

 

^ he knows his coilovers... he has been on just about every set there is.. from inexpensive to out of almost anyones price range..

be prepared to drop some coin on camber arms, toe bolts, and alignment.. or else you'll be spending cash on tires.. so whatever you choose.. about another 500-1000 bux to do it right..

 

still debating either HKS or stance haha but in leaning toward stance.