Stock '03 brembo's or '04 stock brakes?
Other then you asking why, why are you asking? I have friends who have the Brembos on the G35 and they all have problems. Not sure why
Anywho, in terms of braking power for the normal person, both are fine (although the 05-06 stock are much better then the 03-04's). However, if you track or do alot of braking for whatever reasons, the Brembo's are the way to go. Also, only the non-Brembo rotors size increased in 05.
Now, that being said, if you have a choice of upgrading your brakes, then definitely get some BBK (like Stoptechs, Project Mui (not sure of the name), etc.) and don't get the stock Brembo's. Why on earth would you pay alot more dollars for stock Brembo's if you can get better brakes for about the same or even less? Anywho, I had a choice also and decided not to get the 04 (even with a great deal) when I bought my 05 (for the reason above with my friends Brembo's brake) and other refinements in the 05. I knew I was going to upgrade my brakes so it'll be a waste to chuck out the Brembo's (which MIGHT be the only reason to get the 04). Like the other poster said, the damn ugly gold color! Why or why gold? Red or even black is much better.
Hope this helps.
Anywho, in terms of braking power for the normal person, both are fine (although the 05-06 stock are much better then the 03-04's). However, if you track or do alot of braking for whatever reasons, the Brembo's are the way to go. Also, only the non-Brembo rotors size increased in 05.Now, that being said, if you have a choice of upgrading your brakes, then definitely get some BBK (like Stoptechs, Project Mui (not sure of the name), etc.) and don't get the stock Brembo's. Why on earth would you pay alot more dollars for stock Brembo's if you can get better brakes for about the same or even less? Anywho, I had a choice also and decided not to get the 04 (even with a great deal) when I bought my 05 (for the reason above with my friends Brembo's brake) and other refinements in the 05. I knew I was going to upgrade my brakes so it'll be a waste to chuck out the Brembo's (which MIGHT be the only reason to get the 04). Like the other poster said, the damn ugly gold color! Why or why gold? Red or even black is much better.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by mephistomyhero; Mar 10, 2006 at 12:39 PM.
Originally Posted by mephistomyhero
Other then you asking why, why are you asking? I have friends who have the Brembos on the G35 and they all have problems. Not sure why
Anywho, in terms of breaking power for the normal person, both are fine (although the 05-06 stock are much better then the 03-04's). However, if you track or do alot of breaking for whatever reasons, the Brembo's are the way to go. Also, only the non-Brembo rotors size increased in 05.
Now, that being said, if you have a choice of upgrading your breaks, then definitely get some BBK (like Stoptechs, Project Mui (not sure of the name), etc.) and don't get the stock Brembo's. Why on earth would you pay alot more dollars for stock Brembo's if you can get better breaks for about the same or even less? Anywho, I had a choice also and decided not to get the 04 (even with a great deal) when I bought my 05 (for the reason above with my friends Brembo's break) and other refinements in the 05. I knew I was going to upgrade my brakes so it'll be a waste to chuck out the Brembo's (which MIGHT be the only reason to get the 04). Like the other poster said, the damn ugly gold color! Why or why gold? Red or even black is much better.
Hope this helps.
Anywho, in terms of breaking power for the normal person, both are fine (although the 05-06 stock are much better then the 03-04's). However, if you track or do alot of breaking for whatever reasons, the Brembo's are the way to go. Also, only the non-Brembo rotors size increased in 05.Now, that being said, if you have a choice of upgrading your breaks, then definitely get some BBK (like Stoptechs, Project Mui (not sure of the name), etc.) and don't get the stock Brembo's. Why on earth would you pay alot more dollars for stock Brembo's if you can get better breaks for about the same or even less? Anywho, I had a choice also and decided not to get the 04 (even with a great deal) when I bought my 05 (for the reason above with my friends Brembo's break) and other refinements in the 05. I knew I was going to upgrade my brakes so it'll be a waste to chuck out the Brembo's (which MIGHT be the only reason to get the 04). Like the other poster said, the damn ugly gold color! Why or why gold? Red or even black is much better.
Hope this helps.
Please learn how to spell. It is BRAKE not BREAK
Looks like the 05+ G's get similar sized rotors but just a tad thinner and smaller in the rear. Plus dual/single vs quad/dual pistons.
This leads me to believe that if the Brembos indeed have more piston area vs the stockers, they will stop slightly faster due to more clamping force.
The thicker rotor will allow the brakes to resist fade more. The more pistons should help with braking MODULATION as well as more braking force (if the area is increased as mentioned)
IMHO. It looks like a 05+ brake upgrade to a 03-04 non brembo G looks like a real nice upgrade. Especially if your car is mostly street duty. These brakes should give 95%+ of the performance of the Brembos in 1-2-3-4 panic stop situations but w/o the cost and wheel fitment issues.
As far as aftermarket bbks being superior to the OEM Brembos, that might be true or not true. One would have to examine the rotor size and total piston area to determine if they do indeed offer superior braking ability or not. I suppose they would as it wouldn't be much sense to make a bbk that didn't
This leads me to believe that if the Brembos indeed have more piston area vs the stockers, they will stop slightly faster due to more clamping force.
The thicker rotor will allow the brakes to resist fade more. The more pistons should help with braking MODULATION as well as more braking force (if the area is increased as mentioned)
IMHO. It looks like a 05+ brake upgrade to a 03-04 non brembo G looks like a real nice upgrade. Especially if your car is mostly street duty. These brakes should give 95%+ of the performance of the Brembos in 1-2-3-4 panic stop situations but w/o the cost and wheel fitment issues.
As far as aftermarket bbks being superior to the OEM Brembos, that might be true or not true. One would have to examine the rotor size and total piston area to determine if they do indeed offer superior braking ability or not. I suppose they would as it wouldn't be much sense to make a bbk that didn't
'05+ Sedan and Coupe, '06 Sedan X
Front: 12.6-inch X 1.1-inch power-assisted vented disc - 2 pistons
Rear: 12.1-inch X .63-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Sedan, '04 and '05 Sedan X
Front: 11.7-inch X 0.9-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
Rear: 11.5-inch X 0.6-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Non-Brembo Coupes
Front: 11.65-inch x 0.94-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
Rear: 11.5-inch x 0.63-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Coupe Brembos
Brembo® brakes
Front: 12.76-inch x 1.18-inch power-assisted - 4 pistons
Rear: 12.68-inch x 0.87-inch power-assisted - 2 pistons
Front: 12.6-inch X 1.1-inch power-assisted vented disc - 2 pistons
Rear: 12.1-inch X .63-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Sedan, '04 and '05 Sedan X
Front: 11.7-inch X 0.9-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
Rear: 11.5-inch X 0.6-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Non-Brembo Coupes
Front: 11.65-inch x 0.94-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
Rear: 11.5-inch x 0.63-inch power-assisted vented disc - 1 piston
'03 and '04 Coupe Brembos
Brembo® brakes
Front: 12.76-inch x 1.18-inch power-assisted - 4 pistons
Rear: 12.68-inch x 0.87-inch power-assisted - 2 pistons
Last edited by Jeff92se; Mar 10, 2006 at 01:13 PM.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Looks like the 05+ G's get similar sized rotors but just a tad thinner and smaller in the rear. Plus dual/single vs quad/dual pistons.
This leads me to believe that if the Brembos indeed have more piston area vs the stockers, they will stop slightly faster due to more clamping force.
The thicker rotor will allow the brakes to resist fade more. The more pistons should help with braking MODULATION as well as more braking force (if the area is increased as mentioned)
IMHO. It looks like a 05+ brake upgrade to a 03-04 non brembo G looks like a real nice upgrade. Especially if your car is mostly street duty. These brakes should give 95%+ of the performance of the Brembos in 1-2-3-4 panic stop situations but w/o the cost and wheel fitment issues.
As far as aftermarket bbks being superior to the OEM Brembos, that might be true or not true. One would have to examine the rotor size and total piston area to determine if they do indeed offer superior braking ability or not. I suppose they would as it wouldn't be much sense to make a bbk that didn't
This leads me to believe that if the Brembos indeed have more piston area vs the stockers, they will stop slightly faster due to more clamping force.
The thicker rotor will allow the brakes to resist fade more. The more pistons should help with braking MODULATION as well as more braking force (if the area is increased as mentioned)
IMHO. It looks like a 05+ brake upgrade to a 03-04 non brembo G looks like a real nice upgrade. Especially if your car is mostly street duty. These brakes should give 95%+ of the performance of the Brembos in 1-2-3-4 panic stop situations but w/o the cost and wheel fitment issues.
As far as aftermarket bbks being superior to the OEM Brembos, that might be true or not true. One would have to examine the rotor size and total piston area to determine if they do indeed offer superior braking ability or not. I suppose they would as it wouldn't be much sense to make a bbk that didn't
My thoughts exactly. I guess it all boils down to the same reasoning: Since the BBK has larger rotors, more pistons (assuming you get the better BBK), then they SHOULD perform better. Then again, I'm sure the costs are less then the Stock Brembo's so why would you even get the stocks? But man, just one look at the Stoptechs and Project Mui will convice almost anyone to get one (even alot of the Brembo's owners too).

Come to think about it, when you start getting into the BBK's, I don't think it is about shear stopping power anymore. I think it is about fade, looks (and they do look nice with the slotted/ported rotors), and realibility (able to stop consistently after many hard brakes on a track for instance).
Last edited by mephistomyhero; Mar 10, 2006 at 02:31 PM.
Well you have to quantify your statements a bit: OEM 05 vs OEM brembos
Fronts are slightly bigger. Rears have bigger diff. But not THAT big of a difference overall.
Means only better modulation. Not necessarily better performance (stopping power). ONLY if the total piston area is LARGER than the dual piston. Both "could" have the same piston area. ie.. 2 large pistons vs 4 small pistons of equal total area = equal total clamping force.
Should but by how much is the question.
Reasons NOT to get the oem brembo/aftermarket bbk. High cost is one. Difference in street applications might not justify the cost is two. Replacement rotor costs if the units are 2pc. You ever research 2pc rotors? Try $500+ per pair! Wheel fitment issues. Replacement pad cost / availability.
Since the BBK has larger rotors,
more pistons
then they SHOULD perform better
Reasons NOT to get the oem brembo/aftermarket bbk. High cost is one. Difference in street applications might not justify the cost is two. Replacement rotor costs if the units are 2pc. You ever research 2pc rotors? Try $500+ per pair! Wheel fitment issues. Replacement pad cost / availability.
Originally Posted by mephistomyhero
My thoughts exactly. I guess it all boils down to the same reasoning: Since the BBK has larger rotors, more pistons (assuming you get the better BBK), then they SHOULD perform better. Then again, I'm sure the costs are less then the Stock Brembo's so why would you even get the stocks? But man, just one look at the Stoptechs and Project Mui will convice almost anyone to get one (even alot of the Brembo's owners too). 

Originally Posted by deadmanincbh
So if I want better braking performance out of my car for not that much of a cost the 05+ brakes would be good deal? How is the brake fade compared to the 03 and 04's?
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