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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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I was in the same boat. The stockers dusted like no tomorrow. I wanted a good oem quality pad with no dust or noise. I didn't feel like I needed a higher performance pad as long as the replacements were of similar quality.

So I opted for the Axxis Deluxe. Very inexpensive. Supposed to be of oem performance quality with emphasis towards low dusting, quiet, easy on rotors and long life.

I wanted some low dusting because the 19" coupe wheels are a pain to clean. haha

I've only had them for 1 day. 1st impressions is they aren't as "grabby" as the oem pads were. It was actually pretty hard to modulate the stock pads. Everytime you look at the pedal, it was lurch the car's speed down. I hope the performance is the same as oem. I won't really get a feeling for that until they have broken in for another few days.

Remember Axxis, Project Mu, Carbotech etc... all have different levels of pads available depending on what you are looking for.

Originally Posted by ljorges
Hey guys,

My brake pad warranty ran out on my 03 G35 AT. So I'd like to try different pads next time I need pads. The stock pads kick out a ton of dust on my front wheels and I get squealing from time to time.

Any recommendations on a pad that
a. won't kick out a ton of brake dust
b. minimal squealing
c. won't overly wear out my rotors (I don't track the car)

This is for stock non-brembo brakes.

Thanks,

Les
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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I'm looking for pads too and I was thinking of going with the Satisfied Pro replacement pads. They are supposed to be using the OEM compound and from everything I've read, that seems like a good way to go. Only thing I don't understand is how are they being sold for only $24 a set that fits Brembo's?! I have the 6MT with Brembo's and would abolutely love to replace all my pads for only $48!!!! Am I missing something?

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...ar=&perfCode=P
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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i went with stillen metal matrix and the stillen drilled and slotted rotors.no dust at all,no noise and work great.i would never skimp on brakes,what the hell would anybody do that for.also when you put new pads and rotors on make sure you bed them in properly!!!!!! or you will get noise.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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From what I remember, Stillen pads = Axxis brand.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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That is a very good price and do the job yourself cuz it is simple. PM me with any questions and I will gladly walk you through it.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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I got the Hawks a few months ago, wow, hardly any break dust and nice feel / stopping power.... ZERO squeal.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Sillen consistently advises AGAINST using Hawk pads for street/daily driver applications. They do not perform up to spec at temperatures experienced in a daily driver application.

Brake pads and rotors MUST be matched for best performance and service life.

Stillen's metal matrix pads and matching drilled/slotted rotors are designed for street use. They produce NO dust, do not squeal after proper bedding, are VERY fade resistant, and stop noticeably better than the OEM setup. It is well worth the investment to upgrade the rotors and use these pads. I have used them for two years with excellent results.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Rocket sent me a PM asking my opinion on the Axxis Deluxe. Yes, they have been on for a few thousand miles now. They seemed to have improved their bite just a tad from my first post. But they still aren't nearly has grabby as the stockers. The dusting is near nil. Just a tad (I mean a tad) more than the rears (which have the stocker pads on).

Overall I like them. Unfortunately, I never used a set of Project Mus to compare them with. But for how inexpensive they were, I'm more than happy. They are perfectly fine for my daily driver use. I have not been able to abuse them to give any high performance reviews though.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Hawk sells different grades depending on use. So it's hard to just say "Stillen advises against Hawk pads" unless they are really against that company as a whole.

How can the Stillen (aka Axxis) be so perfectly matched for their drilled/slotted when they recommend them for the stock rotors also? It's because they are just matching the compound for street use regardless of rotor choice.

I really woulldn't use drilled rotors on the street. They cannot be turned, the holes create stress risers that lead to cracking and the loss of mass because of the holes make the rotor heat/cool down faster. You want the rotor to heat up and cool down in a controlled and consistent manner.

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Sillen consistently advises AGAINST using Hawk pads for street/daily driver applications. They do not perform up to spec at temperatures experienced in a daily driver application.

Brake pads and rotors MUST be matched for best performance and service life.

Stillen's metal matrix pads and matching drilled/slotted rotors are designed for street use. They produce NO dust, do not squeal after proper bedding, are VERY fade resistant, and stop noticeably better than the OEM setup. It is well worth the investment to upgrade the rotors and use these pads. I have used them for two years with excellent results.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Rocket sent me a PM asking my opinion on the Axxis Deluxe. Yes, they have been on for a few thousand miles now. They seemed to have improved their bite just a tad from my first post. But they still aren't nearly has grabby as the stockers. The dusting is near nil. Just a tad (I mean a tad) more than the rears (which have the stocker pads on).

Overall I like them. Unfortunately, I never used a set of Project Mus to compare them with. But for how inexpensive they were, I'm more than happy. They are perfectly fine for my daily driver use. I have not been able to abuse them to give any high performance reviews though.
Thanks for the reply - so can you clarify if "not as grabby as the stockers" means there's a potential for it being not as effective as stock? I'm not versed in braking, so not sure if less initial bite = less effectiveness.

I love the fact that there's no dusting and that they are inexpensive...but wanted to know overall effectiveness. I don't race or speed often, but I'd like to get an immediate response from the brakes if an emergency situation should arise.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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It's very difficult to say if these perform just as well as the stockers. If I were pressed into which was better, I guess I'd have to go with the stockers. I feel the stockers gave pretty good performance at the expense of massive brake dust and very fast pad wear.

With the Axxis, I "might" be giving up a tick of performance but for what I'm getting in return (WAY less dust and better pad life), it's worth it. These are very, very inexpensive pads. ie.. $25-$30 for a set of fronts. I don't have the expectation that they will be able to do everything. But I'm happy with them and if they didn't work out, hell so what? hehe.

The G already has world class brakes. A ever so slight diff in performance still means they are world class. The Axxis Deluxe are a street pad. That means they will perform well in one stop emergency braking situations. You might be giving up repeated high speed braking performance but I rarely need this. I don't track the car or drive hard enough for any extented length of time.

My advice to you ts this. Whatever your choice, research the pad so you make the best choice you can before you buy. Axxis, Project Mu, etc... all have choices within their line. Some are track type pads and won't feature the best initial bite characteristics but will perform once heated up.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
It's very difficult to say if these perform just as well as the stockers. If I were pressed into which was better, I guess I'd have to go with the stockers. I feel the stockers gave pretty good performance at the expense of massive brake dust and very fast pad wear.

With the Axxis, I "might" be giving up a tick of performance but for what I'm getting in return (WAY less dust and better pad life), it's worth it. These are very, very inexpensive pads. ie.. $25-$30 for a set of fronts. I don't have the expectation that they will be able to do everything. But I'm happy with them and if they didn't work out, hell so what? hehe.

The G already has world class brakes. A ever so slight diff in performance still means they are world class. The Axxis Deluxe are a street pad. That means they will perform well in one stop emergency braking situations. You might be giving up repeated high speed braking performance but I rarely need this. I don't track the car or drive hard enough for any extented length of time.

My advice to you ts this. Whatever your choice, research the pad so you make the best choice you can before you buy. Axxis, Project Mu, etc... all have choices within their line. Some are track type pads and won't feature the best initial bite characteristics but will perform once heated up.
Thanks again! I think I'll try the AXXIS Deluxe....
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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I highly recommend the Project Mu pads. I replaced my front Brembos with them, but they didn't have the rear in stock so I'll have to wait for them to be available again. I'm very happy with the braking performance but I'm ecstatic about the minimal amount of dust that accumulates. I can go 1 week without cleaning my front wheels and they still look good. The rear wheels dust much more than the front do now, I just can't wait to replace those too.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sooner97
I highly recommend the Project Mu pads. I replaced my front Brembos with them, but they didn't have the rear in stock so I'll have to wait for them to be available again. I'm very happy with the braking performance but I'm ecstatic about the minimal amount of dust that accumulates. I can go 1 week without cleaning my front wheels and they still look good. The rear wheels dust much more than the front do now, I just can't wait to replace those too.
I have a sedan, so no-brembo brakes here. Did you notice if the "bite" was the same or better than stock?

I've really been thinking about the Project Mu NS pads...which are about $72. The Axxis Deluxe are about $33...which is less than half. Not sure if the MUs are worth the difference.

I guess I could give it a shot...besides, I got a new set of OEM rear pads off ebay for $25 shipped. I really couldn't miss that great deal and especially since the rears don't dust too much. Decisions, decisions...
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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I just installed Hawk HPS pads and the brake dust is out of control. Dealer says "I got a bad set". Kind of pissed me off.
Think I'll try ceramic next.
 
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