Article on new G35 Sedan HP
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From: Toronto, GTA north
Originally Posted by picus112
They put on under 20lbs with the base and sport models? Damn, gotta give it up to Infiniti on that; they gained room, tech, engine power, dual exhaust, and didn't give up weight. Can't say the same for the porky IS350 or 335i that's for sure. Both cars are significantly smaller and weight the same or more.
I'll be curious how they managed the f/r weight distribution though.
Also, no info on torque yet.....
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Originally Posted by RBull
Yes I read that somewhere too as I posted earlier.
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It is in the spec sheet the dealer sent me Deane. I knew I read it somewhere.
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power to weight is virtually the same. i'm assuming similar 0-60... maybe faster quarter. to be totally honest... what's winning me over is the re-vamped interior. looking at the pics my coupe feels so outdated now. 
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Originally Posted by RBull
Yeah good find, confirming what we already know.
From what others are saying that have driven it the Lexus is not in the game from a chassis/handling perspective. One thing I noted is the author did not make reference to the 335 coming very soon.
It will be interesting to see what the Coupe will have as a powerplant. Infiniti will likely be tight lipped about that as well.
From what others are saying that have driven it the Lexus is not in the game from a chassis/handling perspective. One thing I noted is the author did not make reference to the 335 coming very soon.
It will be interesting to see what the Coupe will have as a powerplant. Infiniti will likely be tight lipped about that as well.
Did you note that in the article, the author makes reference to the fact that Nissan/Infiniti has secured legal rights to the G37 moniker?
Hmmm, how long to own my 05?
Cheers,
D
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Originally Posted by derek
Deane,
Did you note that in the article, the author makes reference to the fact that Nissan/Infiniti has secured legal rights to the G37 moniker?
Hmmm, how long to own my 05?
Cheers,
D
Did you note that in the article, the author makes reference to the fact that Nissan/Infiniti has secured legal rights to the G37 moniker?
Hmmm, how long to own my 05?
Cheers,
D
https://g35driver.com/forums/future-models/88383-g37-registered-infiniti.html
Originally Posted by derek
Deane,
Did you note that in the article, the author makes reference to the fact that Nissan/Infiniti has secured legal rights to the G37 moniker?
Hmmm, how long to own my 05?
Cheers,
D
Did you note that in the article, the author makes reference to the fact that Nissan/Infiniti has secured legal rights to the G37 moniker?
Hmmm, how long to own my 05?
Cheers,
D
Are you thinking of switching up soon?
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Deane, I think a 2009 model year G will find it's way into my driveway, rather than 08. I was thinking Cayman or Boxster, used, but with the roads here as bad as they are, the longer wheelbase of the G seems to be a real plus. I've owned short wheelbase cars, and I recently drove an S2K a few times, and a few other notable shorter wheelbase cars, and came away surprised about how much less composed they were than the G, given the state of most of our "driving [read "back"] roads". Honestly, with the traffic volume being light to nil most days, I find it tough to go thru a day without having a blast on my way to work [speed numbers and routes omitted to protect the not-so-innocent]
I flew on that SAR for the boat that went down on the weekend near Grand Manan. We got one of the fellas picked up, severe hypothermia but alive. Regrettably, the boat's captain went down with the ship according to the survivor (once he regained conciousness). Even coming home after the flight early Sat morning, not a soul on the roads- how could I possibly resist
So here's some math and thoughts, and not necessarily fact, but each can decide for themselves:
Our cars (rev-up), rated at 300, make ~260 RWHP or so, depending on the dyno used. 260/300= .86666
335i: 275/.866= 317 HP (not the 300 BMW is claiming). I'd suggest they're avoiding a HP war.
G35- 300 @ 7000 rpm.
specific output of 100 hp/L occurs at approx 7.8K for current crop of performance engines.
M3 333 at 8K rpm (3.2L, therefore 104 hp/L at 8K)
Jumping ahead (you can work the math yourself, I won't bother typing it out), a G35, redline 7.5K, should make around 320 SAE HP similarly tuned to our cars. A G37, redline 7.0 K should make 317 hp. Redline 7.5K, as per the coupe concept should make closer to 350 hp. I think the engine will actually be less stressed and produce less than this, with a flatter torque curve for driveability.
Two thoughts from this- Infiniti is played the same cat and mouse game with Lexus and BMW regarding SAE HP, and both the sedan and coupe are going to make big power (at least as much as the competition in all cases, but coupe to coupe, more power, and sedan to sedan, more power than the competition). If I'm mistaken about this in the first instance, then both engines have vast headroom for life cycle development. We'll soon see, but I can't wait to see some of the comparisons over the next year.
Cheers,
D
I flew on that SAR for the boat that went down on the weekend near Grand Manan. We got one of the fellas picked up, severe hypothermia but alive. Regrettably, the boat's captain went down with the ship according to the survivor (once he regained conciousness). Even coming home after the flight early Sat morning, not a soul on the roads- how could I possibly resist
So here's some math and thoughts, and not necessarily fact, but each can decide for themselves:
Our cars (rev-up), rated at 300, make ~260 RWHP or so, depending on the dyno used. 260/300= .86666
335i: 275/.866= 317 HP (not the 300 BMW is claiming). I'd suggest they're avoiding a HP war.
G35- 300 @ 7000 rpm.
specific output of 100 hp/L occurs at approx 7.8K for current crop of performance engines.
M3 333 at 8K rpm (3.2L, therefore 104 hp/L at 8K)
Jumping ahead (you can work the math yourself, I won't bother typing it out), a G35, redline 7.5K, should make around 320 SAE HP similarly tuned to our cars. A G37, redline 7.0 K should make 317 hp. Redline 7.5K, as per the coupe concept should make closer to 350 hp. I think the engine will actually be less stressed and produce less than this, with a flatter torque curve for driveability.
Two thoughts from this- Infiniti is played the same cat and mouse game with Lexus and BMW regarding SAE HP, and both the sedan and coupe are going to make big power (at least as much as the competition in all cases, but coupe to coupe, more power, and sedan to sedan, more power than the competition). If I'm mistaken about this in the first instance, then both engines have vast headroom for life cycle development. We'll soon see, but I can't wait to see some of the comparisons over the next year.
Cheers,
D
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Some good thoughts Derek...
I'm an active spectator on this topic as well.
I'm a year and a half away from changing....
it's going to be fun watching how things develop.
I'm an active spectator on this topic as well.
I'm a year and a half away from changing....
it's going to be fun watching how things develop.
Originally Posted by derek
Deane, I think a 2009 model year G will find it's way into my driveway, rather than 08. I was thinking Cayman or Boxster, used, but with the roads here as bad as they are, the longer wheelbase of the G seems to be a real plus. I've owned short wheelbase cars, and I recently drove an S2K a few times, and a few other notable shorter wheelbase cars, and came away surprised about how much less composed they were than the G, given the state of most of our "driving [read "back"] roads". Honestly, with the traffic volume being light to nil most days, I find it tough to go thru a day without having a blast on my way to work [speed numbers and routes omitted to protect the not-so-innocent]
I flew on that SAR for the boat that went down on the weekend near Grand Manan. We got one of the fellas picked up, severe hypothermia but alive. Regrettably, the boat's captain went down with the ship according to the survivor (once he regained conciousness). Even coming home after the flight early Sat morning, not a soul on the roads- how could I possibly resist
So here's some math and thoughts, and not necessarily fact, but each can decide for themselves:
Our cars (rev-up), rated at 300, make ~260 RWHP or so, depending on the dyno used. 260/300= .86666
335i: 275/.866= 317 HP (not the 300 BMW is claiming). I'd suggest they're avoiding a HP war.
G35- 300 @ 7000 rpm.
specific output of 100 hp/L occurs at approx 7.8K for current crop of performance engines.
M3 333 at 8K rpm (3.2L, therefore 104 hp/L at 8K)
Jumping ahead (you can work the math yourself, I won't bother typing it out), a G35, redline 7.5K, should make around 320 SAE HP similarly tuned to our cars. A G37, redline 7.0 K should make 317 hp. Redline 7.5K, as per the coupe concept should make closer to 350 hp. I think the engine will actually be less stressed and produce less than this, with a flatter torque curve for driveability.
Two thoughts from this- Infiniti is played the same cat and mouse game with Lexus and BMW regarding SAE HP, and both the sedan and coupe are going to make big power (at least as much as the competition in all cases, but coupe to coupe, more power, and sedan to sedan, more power than the competition). If I'm mistaken about this in the first instance, then both engines have vast headroom for life cycle development. We'll soon see, but I can't wait to see some of the comparisons over the next year.
Cheers,
D
I flew on that SAR for the boat that went down on the weekend near Grand Manan. We got one of the fellas picked up, severe hypothermia but alive. Regrettably, the boat's captain went down with the ship according to the survivor (once he regained conciousness). Even coming home after the flight early Sat morning, not a soul on the roads- how could I possibly resist
So here's some math and thoughts, and not necessarily fact, but each can decide for themselves:
Our cars (rev-up), rated at 300, make ~260 RWHP or so, depending on the dyno used. 260/300= .86666
335i: 275/.866= 317 HP (not the 300 BMW is claiming). I'd suggest they're avoiding a HP war.
G35- 300 @ 7000 rpm.
specific output of 100 hp/L occurs at approx 7.8K for current crop of performance engines.
M3 333 at 8K rpm (3.2L, therefore 104 hp/L at 8K)
Jumping ahead (you can work the math yourself, I won't bother typing it out), a G35, redline 7.5K, should make around 320 SAE HP similarly tuned to our cars. A G37, redline 7.0 K should make 317 hp. Redline 7.5K, as per the coupe concept should make closer to 350 hp. I think the engine will actually be less stressed and produce less than this, with a flatter torque curve for driveability.
Two thoughts from this- Infiniti is played the same cat and mouse game with Lexus and BMW regarding SAE HP, and both the sedan and coupe are going to make big power (at least as much as the competition in all cases, but coupe to coupe, more power, and sedan to sedan, more power than the competition). If I'm mistaken about this in the first instance, then both engines have vast headroom for life cycle development. We'll soon see, but I can't wait to see some of the comparisons over the next year.
Cheers,
D
That could be the same situation here with the timing of a potential new ride. I would love a Porsche- my dream car 911 but doubt I could end up justifying the $. A friend of mine is the sales manager at Porsche Halifax and he has been asking me to go out for a toot in a 911s. I've resisted not wanting to get spoiled. You're probably quite right about our roads state upsetting the overall stability of these performance vehicles. That's great you can safely "play" a bit on the roads around you.
You sure do get a reality check with the situations you get called into with the military. I'm sure there are many people thankful when you can make a difference with a life.
Some interesting thoughts on the engine and horsepower war that is/has developed. Your points make a lot of sense. I think the dyno numbers you state seem high to what is commonly found on this site but as long as it is apples to apples against other engines it doesn't matter. There seems to be greater paristic loss than 13-15% - closer to 20% on the G. From what I've read the new 335 OE claimed 302 hp and 295 torque are closer to what it puts out at the wheels per a dyno test that was done somewhere.The author extrapolated something like 345 hp and 340 torque at the crank. I guess we'll know soon about the truth of of this soon and about the new G Coupe in another 8 months or so.
Cheers
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The G numbers were from a couple of rev-up dynos, rather than the original engine, posted here in the past six months. One was somewhere around 258 and the other 262, both with only the Z-tube and drop-in filter. The 03-04 engine was putting out around 238-240: 240/280=86%.
258/300= 86%. Here's one of the graphs I saw
258/300= 86%. Here's one of the graphs I saw
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One thing I forgot to mention was the significant difference that can be found in dyno results because of the dyno used. Mustangs and DynoJets are not at all alike, as well weather and fuel play such a big role.
Our fuel here is notoriously bad. I filled up at Irving in Truro last summer, and my car ticked so bad under acceleration I thought it was going to blow up. The poor VQ was doing it's best with what might as well have amounted to running H2O instead of fuel, from what I could tell. As you can well imagine, the map had me dialed back to what might as well have been 70 hp. It was upon first arrival back in the province, and I could only remark to myself, "oh yeah, I remember this little bit about living here, again." No worries, I'll take some bad fuel over sitting in gridlock any day, more than happy to be back, but I would love to have posted a dyno from that day
Now if they can get a wider choice of colours for the new car, I'll be really stoked. 5 uncolours (black, white, light grey, antique grey, and dark grey) is too many. Porsche's Lapis Blue Metallic (or bring back the midnight), or Aston's British Racing Green metallic, or something in the burgundy end of the palette perhaps?
Our fuel here is notoriously bad. I filled up at Irving in Truro last summer, and my car ticked so bad under acceleration I thought it was going to blow up. The poor VQ was doing it's best with what might as well have amounted to running H2O instead of fuel, from what I could tell. As you can well imagine, the map had me dialed back to what might as well have been 70 hp. It was upon first arrival back in the province, and I could only remark to myself, "oh yeah, I remember this little bit about living here, again." No worries, I'll take some bad fuel over sitting in gridlock any day, more than happy to be back, but I would love to have posted a dyno from that day
Now if they can get a wider choice of colours for the new car, I'll be really stoked. 5 uncolours (black, white, light grey, antique grey, and dark grey) is too many. Porsche's Lapis Blue Metallic (or bring back the midnight), or Aston's British Racing Green metallic, or something in the burgundy end of the palette perhaps?