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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 03:05 AM
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Need Help!! Turbo or N/A

i need help to decide on a turbo setup or NA.

the turbo setup is: STS rear mounted turbo kit: T4 turbo, intercooler, 440cc injectors, fuel pump, bov, all necessary accessories, gauges, utec ect... with my car tuned my mech says 400whp at 6-8 psi but not more cuz it wouldnt be good for the engine. all of this would cost me 5500$ USD! ~ 7-8k canadian plus 1200$ CDN install + 300$CDN tune ~ 9k ish all together..... for 400whp.

N/A setup is: individual throttle bodys (6 - 1 for piston). Cams and heads for the engine, utec, nissan titan lsd gears. all for 5500$ CDN installed! whp somewhere in the mid 300s

** cant use the shorter lsd gearing with the turbo cuz of wheel spin**

Existing mods on the car: intake, plenum 5'8s, lightweight pulleys, headers, test pipes, custom y-pipe and mid-pipe w/stock muffler and sprint booster.


so besically turbo+tune 400whp for 9k or mid 320-360 whp for full bolton with stage 2 NA +tune for only 5k???
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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N/A if its gonna cost you 4 or 5 grand extra for the turbo
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zeidik
i need help to decide on a turbo setup or NA.
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There are several CDN turbo car members that I'm sure could give you some good feedback.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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where were you getting it installed?
I bought a turbonetics kit off a guy on here, haven't installed it yet - still accumulating part exhaust, gauges, BOV, wastegate etc.
I'm going turbo because I hear boost is addicting to drive with.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Rear mounted turbos are not my favorite, kind of a waste of money, dont take it the wrong way there have been members that have made some high numbers with it but they have also spent $$$. N/A will end up costing you alot more money down the road just to get the 350whp mark, if even possible, few members have full rebuilt motors with internals and still only produce around 300-325whp(maybe more not sure lol), but F/I will be the "CHEAPEST" route in the long run, I would recommend the turbonetics single, seen good results from it, or if your a baller you can run the JWT kit and do your motor work and you can put down some SICK A$$ numbers....good luck with your build
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TroysG
where were you getting it installed?
I bought a turbonetics kit off a guy on here, haven't installed it yet - still accumulating part exhaust, gauges, BOV, wastegate etc.
I'm going turbo because I hear boost is addicting to drive with.
im getting it installed at AMS (www.amszstore.com) if i get it. they did one of the first G35 TT back in 2003. if the turbonetics kit needs to take the engine out of the car then its a bit pricy cuz he does charge quite a bit for wen the engine is taken out the car but if it doesnt then i dont see it being more then 1200-1500$
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scarface_613
Rear mounted turbos are not my favorite, kind of a waste of money, dont take it the wrong way there have been members that have made some high numbers with it but they have also spent $$$. N/A will end up costing you alot more money down the road just to get the 350whp mark, if even possible, few members have full rebuilt motors with internals and still only produce around 300-325whp(maybe more not sure lol), but F/I will be the "CHEAPEST" route in the long run, I would recommend the turbonetics single, seen good results from it, or if your a baller you can run the JWT kit and do your motor work and you can put down some SICK A$$ numbers....good luck with your build
do i need to take the engine out the car for the car for that? rear mount easier very cheap to do service on too.. and no matter wat ppl say about the turbo lag its surrounded by exhausts and heat shields at the back once the car gets some heat there it would boost like no tomorrow. i was in the PAS magazine editors 350z with the kit and it really had no lag at all... and hes putting some amazing numbers just with 5.5 psi. JWT single turbo?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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+1 for turbo! our cars arent very n/a friendly
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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have u thought about supercharging your car. stillen sells kits that seem amazing, i would like to do it to my car but i promised my self no boost for this car lol.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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thanks guys. i decided to go with the turbo kit over then NA. kit comes next week and installed hopefully by the end of the month! ill post the numbers wen i get them.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by zeidik
all of this would cost me 5500$ USD! ~ 7-8k canadian plus 1200$ CDN install + 300$CDN tune ~ 9k ish all together..... for 400whp.

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For $9,000, I would never do it. It's waaaaaaay too much, unless you are loaded. You will be in for well over $10,000 by the time you have your clutch upgraded and have it tuned. I doubt that tuning will be $300, I got quoted $800 on a Haltech tune.

I built my own kit, it cost me about $3000 Canadian. I ended up buying a Haltech, so that drove the price up an additional $2500. If I had stayed with a UTEC it would have been about $3800 total. Didn't really cheap out on anything, Garrett turbo, Tial Wastegate....ect. More info here: http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...brication.html


You could also get a used Turbonetics kit for really cheap these day. Probably around $3500.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Buy used kit, it's a lot cheaper... Or used SC kit. Definitely cheapest way to make power, 400whp!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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^^i heard use kits get abused alot, would you abuse your turbo kit before you sell it?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Most good kits are already high quality. It's very rare not to have a kit that immediately needs replacement/repairs.

Besides, they should know that if they abuse the kit, they are also abusing their cars
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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I think you went the right way if you like power it is way more $$$ to get the power N/A most ITB kits I saw when I was looking were as much as a turbo kit. I have heard the STS kit is good and it is easy to install. I am not sure about a $300 tune the only way that is possible is if your tuner has done one of these kits before and is giving you the same tune he gave someone else and maybe tweaking it a bit. I havent looked into power levels much on an STS kit but 400whp might be a bit optamistic. Keep us posted anyway.
 
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