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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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G35 C 6mt vs Acura CL-S

DAMMMNNN... ACURA CL Type S are sure FASTER than our G35 C. Believe it or not.... try to race with any CL-S and you'll get my point. My friend has CL-S AT and we raced. He sure beats me everytime we race! Our G35 are pretty slow on the third gear... but hey I'm new on stick... been driving the stick for 4 months...so, call me Mr. Slow driver ... anyone who wished to race with CL-S... all i gotta say...g'luck!

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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I was looking at a CL-type S before going with my '04 G35coupe. If I'm not mistaken, the G's got 10-20 more horses no? (260 vs 280?) And his is an automatic (so must be less - I was eyeing the MT since the CL offers it over the TL-S).

Methinks it is your shifting... LOL - hell you coulda beat him in 1st alone!!!

Try again, you can do it...

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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I agree with the above post. If there was any advantage the Acura would have it would be from a complete stop. An automatic car can usually take off quicker where a stick car requires good driving skills. From a roll say in third gear you would have the upper hand because you can put the engine in its power band instantly. What rpms were you at before you punched it? Next time whether your in 2nd or 3rd gear keep the rpms at 4500 before you go and see what happens. Just be prepared for your next shift cause it comes up fast.

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Agreed. You hit 1st on the button, assuming VDC stops you from squealing, and you should already be launched forward and if you shift smoothly into 2nd and 3rd and keep it going till the 4-4500 range, you should feel the kick just as you arc over 4000!

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Agreed. You hit 1st on the button, assuming VDC stops you from squealing, and you should already be launched forward and if you shift smoothly into 2nd and 3rd and keep it going till the 4-4500 range, you should feel the kick just as you arc over 4000!

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Don't quite understand what your tying to say here Al? The VDC should be off it will not help you especially with closely matched cars. I once raced an older vette and had forgotten to turn off the VDC. Well, when I went to shift into second the tires broke loose the VDC kicked in and the car fell on its face. The vette just flew by like I was standing still.
Once you shift into second gear after redline the rpms will never drop below 4800 rpms you can attribute that to the closely spaced ratios in the tranny.

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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LOL... great example. I guess you have a good point, I guess I'm always thinking that if you have the VDC off, you'll just end up leaving a patch when you try to peel out from the lights, no?

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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On the first gear, I reached to 4000 RPM (not to sure if that is the limit for the 1st gear because I don't want to damage the engine or avoid the pop piston), then i shift to 2nd gear... reached to 5k rpm... shift to 3 rd gear... 5k-6k rpm.... am i doing it wrong?

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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I guess I'm always thinking that if you have the VDC off, you'll just end up leaving a patch when you try to peel out from the lights, no?

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You need to find a good balance of throttle and traction. Actually many times some minor wheelspin is good, I prefer to just slightly haze the tires.



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On the first gear, I reached to 4000 RPM (not to sure if that is the limit for the 1st gear because I don't want to damage the engine or avoid the pop piston), then i shift to 2nd gear... reached to 5k rpm... shift to 3 rd gear... 5k-6k rpm.... am i doing it wrong?

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WolfsterX, there's your problem! You must ring out each gear to around 6300 rpms if you want to maximize your accleration. By shifting less than 6000 rpms you are not reaching peak power and not utilizing all your horsepower.




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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Re: G35 C 6mt vs Acura CL-S

Wolfster, I predict that by the end of the summer (or earlier) you will beat your friend's Acura.
I looked it up to be sure, and yes the G can take the stock CL-S.

One small word of advice... once you've smoked him, it's easy to forget to turn your VDC back on afterwards, and then if taking a corner too aggressively you can get into trouble with power oversteer (rear end breaks loose)... just be aware of that!


 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I had an 03 CL-S, it was slower than G coupe for sure. I had Comptech headers on, it doesn't pull as hard as the G coupe does. that's why I traded it in and join the G club.

 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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WaveSonic

My friend has the comptech headers as well. Now he is thinking about getting supercharger and I will never get a chance to beat him *grin*....maybe I'll put the supercharger in my G too! *not*

BobbyD
even 6300 RPM on 1st gear too!!?? Will it damage the gear?



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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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WolfsterX,

There probably isn't a day I don't go full throttle when driving my car. As long as the motor is up to operating temps you'll have no problem. If you want to fully explore your engines power you need to rev it and that's in every gear. You did mention your new to driving stick so don't rush in. Take your time and talk to other experienced drivers and when your comfortable you can progress further.

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Well, if he does get supercharger, you can't beat him without mods. But it would not be a fair game, either stock vs stock or mods vs mods. Just like G owners don't race with TRD Camries. lol

 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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One other point, folks. Along with wringing each gear to redline (one point not mentioned is that it's not only taking advantage of the max hp of the car, but also ensuring you don't let the revs fall between shifts), and along with deselecting the VDC, shut off the AC!!! Any idea how many hp your AC draws? It's the diff between a new TL and a G35Coupe- around 10 hp (can be more on some cars-15 even). Not just at peak hp- all the time. So while you're sitting at idle, and the car is making say 50 (I'm being generous here, not having a torque and hp curve handy), 20% of that is being drawn to keep your comfy little tush cool. Hence the relatively poor roll-on in 6th gear from, let's say 100-120km/h (key word being "relatively"). Same applies for making a pass that in hindsight you may assess to have been a bit dodgy, or risky. Shut off the AC if the space is tight. I think you'll find you wax your friend's CL rather handily, wolf.

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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derek,

The AC has a clutch and turns off when you go full throttle. Also, when the AC is on the fans come on earlier and lower the coolant temps. You "might" loose some power with the AC on, but not more than say 5-10hp at the most if any.

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