Another turbo build
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Another turbo build
Hey guy, might as well share with the rest of my fellow Canucks. This is also on my350z.com
Well guys, the time has come. The winter (at least up here) has begun, so I am under the car again.
This is the original build thread: http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...brication.html
This kit that I am working on is not for me, but for a "customer" I guess you can say. It will be a bit different as I have learned a few thing when it comes to building a turbo system. I will point these things out as the build goes.
So first of I will start with the most importan things, new tools I have purchased.
Heart of the entire operation is the welder. This is an AC/DC high frequency machine. I sold my old one to my boss, and got this unit for $1600. I am supper happy with it, and once all the dials are set properly it almost welds byitself.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031523.jpg)
Second purchase is a new saw. I LOVE THIS THING. It is not your traditional abrasive cutting wheel, but a toothed carbite blade, much like you have on your circular saw. The cuts are incredebly clean and not one burr, so there is no wasting time cleaning the inside of the turbing. Never used one before, or even knew about it untill I saw it in a flyer. $500 later and it is now my.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031516.jpg)
I also went out and got a two bulb flourecent fixture. This beats any trouble light out there:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031520.jpg)
On to the new piping, once again I choose 409 stainless do to it's ability to withstand heat/corrosion and most importantly no cracking. This time around I am doing all the pre turbo plumbing with 2.5" piping. I found that the 2" crossover pipe was too small and restrictive causing my bank one wideband to read richer under WOT boost runs. This was bothering me for a long time, and the problems went away when I switched the 2" piping with 2.5". You don't see this on other kits because other turbo manufacturers don't put a wideband in the crossover pipe.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031501.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031504.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031507.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031509.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031510.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031511.jpg)
New turbor. On the left is my old Garrett T04S 60-1 turbo with a large S compressor cover. On the right is the same turbo with an "E" compressor cover. This will alowe me to tuck the turbo even higher than the old one. I have to say the old setup was plenty high and I have gone over Wall Mart speed bumps withough any issues. Turbo performance stays the same with a smaller compressor cover. One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note is that the compressor cover will NOT have to be modified. I changed the IC piping routing so that the turbo can be installed right off the shelf. This will allow for easy turbo upgrades down the road. A precision 6262 can also be bough with an "E" compressor cover and those are capable of 600whp on this platform. I know of a shop running twin 6262's with this configuration and made 1200whp.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031512.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031513.jpg)
I have been practicing my aluminum welding as well. It is very easy once the welder is setup, some 2.5" tubing, just needs to be polished:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031514.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031524.jpg)
All stocked up:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031522.jpg)
All IC piping will be aluminum ofcourse, and all the ends are beed rolld. This will allow for worry free high boost applications, as there is no chance of couplers to slip off:
Like mentioned before, the IC piping routing will be changed for the better:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031518.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031519.jpg)
Intercooler wil be different as well:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/IC.jpg)
It will have a 21x11x3 core with 3" inlet and 3" outlet, also capable of supporting plenty of power.
We will see hot this goes, and how many of these kits I can make. If you have questions/comments chime right in.
Something else I should mention, with this setup there won't be any need to heat wrap any of the OEM wiring, making it a very straight forward install.
Well guys, the time has come. The winter (at least up here) has begun, so I am under the car again.
This is the original build thread: http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...brication.html
This kit that I am working on is not for me, but for a "customer" I guess you can say. It will be a bit different as I have learned a few thing when it comes to building a turbo system. I will point these things out as the build goes.
So first of I will start with the most importan things, new tools I have purchased.
Heart of the entire operation is the welder. This is an AC/DC high frequency machine. I sold my old one to my boss, and got this unit for $1600. I am supper happy with it, and once all the dials are set properly it almost welds byitself.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031523.jpg)
Second purchase is a new saw. I LOVE THIS THING. It is not your traditional abrasive cutting wheel, but a toothed carbite blade, much like you have on your circular saw. The cuts are incredebly clean and not one burr, so there is no wasting time cleaning the inside of the turbing. Never used one before, or even knew about it untill I saw it in a flyer. $500 later and it is now my.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031516.jpg)
I also went out and got a two bulb flourecent fixture. This beats any trouble light out there:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031520.jpg)
On to the new piping, once again I choose 409 stainless do to it's ability to withstand heat/corrosion and most importantly no cracking. This time around I am doing all the pre turbo plumbing with 2.5" piping. I found that the 2" crossover pipe was too small and restrictive causing my bank one wideband to read richer under WOT boost runs. This was bothering me for a long time, and the problems went away when I switched the 2" piping with 2.5". You don't see this on other kits because other turbo manufacturers don't put a wideband in the crossover pipe.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031501.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031504.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031507.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031509.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031510.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031511.jpg)
New turbor. On the left is my old Garrett T04S 60-1 turbo with a large S compressor cover. On the right is the same turbo with an "E" compressor cover. This will alowe me to tuck the turbo even higher than the old one. I have to say the old setup was plenty high and I have gone over Wall Mart speed bumps withough any issues. Turbo performance stays the same with a smaller compressor cover. One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note is that the compressor cover will NOT have to be modified. I changed the IC piping routing so that the turbo can be installed right off the shelf. This will allow for easy turbo upgrades down the road. A precision 6262 can also be bough with an "E" compressor cover and those are capable of 600whp on this platform. I know of a shop running twin 6262's with this configuration and made 1200whp.
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031512.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031513.jpg)
I have been practicing my aluminum welding as well. It is very easy once the welder is setup, some 2.5" tubing, just needs to be polished:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031514.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031524.jpg)
All stocked up:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031522.jpg)
All IC piping will be aluminum ofcourse, and all the ends are beed rolld. This will allow for worry free high boost applications, as there is no chance of couplers to slip off:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031521.jpg)
Like mentioned before, the IC piping routing will be changed for the better:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031518.jpg)
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/S1031519.jpg)
Intercooler wil be different as well:
![](http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q204/1997KLDE/NEW%20TURBO%20BUILD/IC.jpg)
It will have a 21x11x3 core with 3" inlet and 3" outlet, also capable of supporting plenty of power.
We will see hot this goes, and how many of these kits I can make. If you have questions/comments chime right in.
Something else I should mention, with this setup there won't be any need to heat wrap any of the OEM wiring, making it a very straight forward install.
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As far as power goes, it all depends on the turbo. I am also building another kit for a track car. It will use the Precision 6262 turbo, and he will be shooting for 600+whp. Should be no problem with that turbo.
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yea AT do stay in boost till you lift off the throttle, wat i ment was the max whp flat lined at above 4k rpm stayed till just over 6k rpm and max wtq started at around 3k rpm and stayed till a bit below 5k rpm. on top of that the cars rpm built a lot quicker. thats wat i remember from my dyno sheet. passed 2.5k rpm i had a lot more whp then a stock AT G at top whp lol. the torque converters started slipping after a bit with the kit but lots of issues will come later with turbo with the 5AT
Last edited by zeidik; 11-02-2009 at 12:11 PM.
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I am not sure if this guy fom Calgary will come through. That is ok though because I have had a ton of PM's on my350.com from people wanting a kit. So it will go somewhere one way or another.
I am excided about the guy wanting the Percision 6262 setup. It will show the potential of this setup really well. He is shooting for 600whp, see how that turns out. I just placed an order for the turbo and Tial 44mm w/g.
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Much bigger market south of the border.
Yes the 6262 is on a built block, and it will be tuned by the best. Hal @ Injected Performance will do the install and tuning. Should get some good results.
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