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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Fail to stop at Red light ...

Yeah, last March, a rather young, blonde, Police Officer gave me a ticket for not completely stopping at an intersection. I told her I thought I did, she disagreed and said that I rolled through the intersection at between 15 - 20 km. She said that normally she wouldn't have bothered stopping me but she was ordered to police this particular intersection as there had been many problems.
Do any of you know of any technical information, or where I can find some, as to how long it would take our cars to stop from 15 km on dry pavement?
I tried it since and it seemed to me that she could have blinked and missed my stopping.
And yes, she was quite attractive. I've always been a sucker for a woman in uniform, specially when they have a gun.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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I don't know how long it would take to stop from 15kmph but if she's anything like this I want to know what intersection I need to roll through...right now!
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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it doesn't matter if she blinked, by law you have to stop for a min of 2 or 5 seconds (i forget which) when your turning on a red. My buddy got ticketed 2 years ago for the same thing, they didn't argue whether he stopped or not, but they said he didn't stop long enough either way. so i highly down your gonna be successful in arguing the cop closed her eyes for 2-5 seconds and missed your entire stop
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure you have to come to a "complete stop" as opposed to any particular amount of time.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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stopping from 15km/h depends on how hard you hit the brakes lol.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK213
Covers stopping. No mention of time involved.

Curious how your case turns out so keep us posted.
 

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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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i think its like a stop sign. complete stop, and usually they enforce 3 seconds during driving test.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Yep, for the driving test, but that doesn't come out of the law. They also enforce checking your mirrors every few seconds...
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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I don't wanna get into a whole lecture about the legal system, but you can't just look at provisions of the Highway Traffic Act to see what the driving laws are. Statutes delegate regulatory power to the executive Governor in Council and/or to a municipal council, which means you also have to read by-laws and regulations that affect the statutory provisions. Then after that you have to look at all the common law interpretations that courts have given that specific statutory provision; a law that you have to stop at an intersection in order to avoid hazards means nothing until a judge interprets what is a reasonable period of time to stop to avoid hazards. It can be 3 sec, 5 sec, or whatever he decides. The moral of this story is we in the legal community make the law so complicated that we force the average person like you to hire us as lawyers to interpret the law lol
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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You have to treat it like a stop sign and come to a complete stop, rolling by doesnt cut it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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^+1

if theres red light camera at a junction, and im turning right on red, i always make sure to make a complete stop cuz they can charge you for not stopping too.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Years ago an officer nabbed me twice for rolling through two stop signs one right after the other. Son of a b*tch...lol
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rpm&my_G35
I don't know how long it would take to stop from 15kmph but if she's anything like this I want to know what intersection I need to roll through...right now!
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Yup Paul, that's her, except she was wearing a ponytail and she was wearing dark blue. It was at the "Y" intersection of Layer and Bush St.
You must have an amazing tongue to have gotten her to Pose for you.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by G35fromTO
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK213
Covers stopping. No mention of time involved.

Curious how your case turns out so keep us posted.
Good site, thanks.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redpearl99
I don't wanna get into a whole lecture about the legal system, but you can't just look at provisions of the Highway Traffic Act to see what the driving laws are. Statutes delegate regulatory power to the executive Governor in Council and/or to a municipal council, which means you also have to read by-laws and regulations that affect the statutory provisions. Then after that you have to look at all the common law interpretations that courts have given that specific statutory provision; a law that you have to stop at an intersection in order to avoid hazards means nothing until a judge interprets what is a reasonable period of time to stop to avoid hazards. It can be 3 sec, 5 sec, or whatever he decides. The moral of this story is we in the legal community make the law so complicated that we force the average person like you to hire us as lawyers to interpret the law lol
Thanks, I appreciate the legal perspective .......... guess I'll go and hope she doesn't show ....... specially now that Paul has posted a picture of her.
 
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