Hey guys I just got a UDM and I'm in need of products to start!
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/udm-1000-na.html
This will be the first car I detail. The car is a 06 Obsidian Black
I have looked around and compiled a list
Here are a few things I have in my shopping cart
1. Poorboys SSR1 (do I need SSR 2? SSR2.5?) or Menzerna SIP and 106FF
2. Poorboys Black Hole for dark vehicles
3. Poorboys EX-P (I assume I need this because its pure sealant w/o carnuaba since the nattys has that.)
4. I already have Natty's Blue wax/NXT Tech Wax ( After glaze/sealant wait 24 hours to apply wax?)
Pads (don't know which size to get for the UDM I have)
1. for the ssr1, orange cutting pad? white polishing pad?
2. black hole ( dont' know what pad for this glaze)
3. EX-P (dont know)
4. Grey finishing pad for the nattys?
Thanks for any help you guys can give!
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/udm-1000-na.html
This will be the first car I detail. The car is a 06 Obsidian Black
I have looked around and compiled a list
Here are a few things I have in my shopping cart
1. Poorboys SSR1 (do I need SSR 2? SSR2.5?) or Menzerna SIP and 106FF
2. Poorboys Black Hole for dark vehicles
3. Poorboys EX-P (I assume I need this because its pure sealant w/o carnuaba since the nattys has that.)
4. I already have Natty's Blue wax/NXT Tech Wax ( After glaze/sealant wait 24 hours to apply wax?)
Pads (don't know which size to get for the UDM I have)
1. for the ssr1, orange cutting pad? white polishing pad?
2. black hole ( dont' know what pad for this glaze)
3. EX-P (dont know)
4. Grey finishing pad for the nattys?
Thanks for any help you guys can give!
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I think you would be better off with menzerna SIP and 106FF and i would get 3 pads of orange and white.Get the 6.5" and a set of 4" pads with a backing plate for the 4" setup as the 4" pads will correct faster.
To apply wax after sealent yes wait 24 hours and a grey finishing pad is fine for the nattys.
To apply wax after sealent yes wait 24 hours and a grey finishing pad is fine for the nattys.
alright alright so definetly will look into those
what about a seal for that polish
+ the UDM comes with a 5" backing plate is that koo? or do i need the 4?
what about a seal for that polish
+ the UDM comes with a 5" backing plate is that koo? or do i need the 4?
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what about a seal for that polish
I was looking at the same sealent as you were but i decided to go with the Ultimate Paint Guard Plus and glad that i did.You can get it on the autopia site and after you put on three coats all you will be able to say is wow!Originally Posted by eurodre
alright alright so definetly will look into thosewhat about a seal for that polish
When i first used it i did one coat and was thinking that looks pretty damn good but after the second and third it just amazed me.Also if you are looking for a 1st class qd get finish kare fk 425 its friken awesome stuff and you can only get it here.
www.FK1USA.com
wut about the 5" backing plate? is that ok or do i need the 4? it came with the 5
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I hate to
but look at all the products you're buying not to mention the
time involved applying them. I can get better results with my 3 step system
and it will only take me 2 hours....twice a year. The rest of the year I just
apply the wax after washing. Sure I have a buffer but only use it when I
discover a scratch I can't remove by hand. My process is the following....
Zymol clay & detail spray (lots of it)
Zymol cleaner (smells like chocolate milk)
Zymol Concourse wax (wax is applied the old fashioned way by hand)
All these items can be purchased direct or I buy mine from California Car Cover in Northridge.
I'll be glad to compare finishes when you're ready....
Gary
but look at all the products you're buying not to mention thetime involved applying them. I can get better results with my 3 step system
and it will only take me 2 hours....twice a year. The rest of the year I just
apply the wax after washing. Sure I have a buffer but only use it when I
discover a scratch I can't remove by hand. My process is the following....
Zymol clay & detail spray (lots of it)
Zymol cleaner (smells like chocolate milk)
Zymol Concourse wax (wax is applied the old fashioned way by hand)
All these items can be purchased direct or I buy mine from California Car Cover in Northridge.
I'll be glad to compare finishes when you're ready....

Gary
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but look at all the products you're buying not to mention the
time involved applying them. I can get better results with my 3 step system
and it will only take me 2 hours....twice a year. The rest of the year I just
apply the wax after washing. Sure I have a buffer but only use it when I
discover a scratch I can't remove by hand. My process is the following....
Zymol clay & detail spray (lots of it)
Zymol cleaner (smells like chocolate milk)
Zymol Concourse wax (wax is applied the old fashioned way by hand)
All these items can be purchased direct or I buy mine from California Car Cover in Northridge.
I'll be glad to compare finishes when you're ready....
Gary
Thats all well and great if you dont have any spiderwebs(swirls) in the paint.But if you need corrective work to make the paint flawless again you need what is stated above.Here on this coast we get so much bs salt and other **** put on the road so you have no choice but do a polish once or twice a year.Originally Posted by gary c
I hate to
but look at all the products you're buying not to mention thetime involved applying them. I can get better results with my 3 step system
and it will only take me 2 hours....twice a year. The rest of the year I just
apply the wax after washing. Sure I have a buffer but only use it when I
discover a scratch I can't remove by hand. My process is the following....
Zymol clay & detail spray (lots of it)
Zymol cleaner (smells like chocolate milk)
Zymol Concourse wax (wax is applied the old fashioned way by hand)
All these items can be purchased direct or I buy mine from California Car Cover in Northridge.
I'll be glad to compare finishes when you're ready....

Gary
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5" is fine for the 6.5 pads but you need a 3.5" for the 4" pads.Originally Posted by eurodre
wut about the 5" backing plate? is that ok or do i need the 4? it came with the 5
http://www.autogeek.net/ccs-5-5inch-...fing-pads.html
can i just buy those? 5.5 and no 3.5s?cus the menzerna comes with 2 free 5 1/4s
So
Menzerna SIP - Free Orange Pads
Menzerna 106FF -Green?
Meguair's #21 Sealant- Grey?
Wax - Grey?
can i just buy those? 5.5 and no 3.5s?cus the menzerna comes with 2 free 5 1/4s
So
Menzerna SIP - Free Orange Pads
Menzerna 106FF -Green?
Meguair's #21 Sealant- Grey?
Wax - Grey?
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can i just buy those? 5.5 and no 3.5s?cus the menzerna comes with 2 free 5 1/4s
So
Menzerna SIP - Free Orange Pads
Menzerna 106FF -Green?
Meguair's #21 Sealant- Grey?
Wax - Grey?
5.5 inch pads are better then 6.5 for correction but the 4" are best but you should be fine with those pads.Originally Posted by eurodre
http://www.autogeek.net/ccs-5-5inch-...fing-pads.htmlcan i just buy those? 5.5 and no 3.5s?cus the menzerna comes with 2 free 5 1/4s
So
Menzerna SIP - Free Orange Pads
Menzerna 106FF -Green?
Meguair's #21 Sealant- Grey?
Wax - Grey?
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What a lot of people dont understand is that Menzerna is intended for rotaries. The UDM won't create enough heat for the polish to break down. I'd go with the DA approved polishes from Megs
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With 4" pads menzerna does work but it is a long process.I have a rotary and a flex3401 and couldnt imagine using a pc again.Originally Posted by xfactor78
What a lot of people dont understand is that Menzerna is intended for rotaries. The UDM won't create enough heat for the polish to break down. I'd go with the DA approved polishes from Megs
^^yah but with a rotary if u dont know wut ur duing u can mess up the paint right?
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Yes you can but after trying my rotary on a buddies car whose paint is pretty much trashed it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be.I actually got the hang of it pretty quick you just need to concentrate on what you are doing....thats all.Originally Posted by eurodre
^^yah but with a rotary if u dont know wut ur duing u can mess up the paint right?
I use the rotary to do the correction and finsh of with the flex.