Cost to clay bar a car?
#31
While I agree that $10 an hour is too low, $100 is way too high for a side business.
$20 an hour is over $40k a year, so $40/hr (companies bill at 2x hourly as a rule) seems a much more reasonable fee if you think of it as a business. I think even $50/hr would be a decent price to quote people once you establish a customer base.
Granted, 10 hours is a long time but I doubt he was in a hurry and didn't have other cars to do since I'm seeing this as a side thing he does.
So figure it should take 4-5 real hours at $40 an hour, so $160 - $200 in labor. So $200 all in we'll say on the conservative side since he's a friend.
I'm an accountant so this is what I would advise someone in his position if they were to create a business model.
Remember, you build a cost structure based on what a job SHOULD take, delivery schedule is based on how fast or slow you feel like moving
$20 an hour is over $40k a year, so $40/hr (companies bill at 2x hourly as a rule) seems a much more reasonable fee if you think of it as a business. I think even $50/hr would be a decent price to quote people once you establish a customer base.
Granted, 10 hours is a long time but I doubt he was in a hurry and didn't have other cars to do since I'm seeing this as a side thing he does.
So figure it should take 4-5 real hours at $40 an hour, so $160 - $200 in labor. So $200 all in we'll say on the conservative side since he's a friend.
I'm an accountant so this is what I would advise someone in his position if they were to create a business model.
Remember, you build a cost structure based on what a job SHOULD take, delivery schedule is based on how fast or slow you feel like moving
I just do it on the side once in awhile but when I work for 10 hours, I work for 10 hours. Either way I am getting the same labor amount. I'm not going to waste my time and just mope around. I try to move quickly and efficiently rather than work slowly for a low hourly rate.
#32
I just do it on the side once in awhile but when I work for 10 hours, I work for 10 hours. Either way I am getting the same labor amount. I'm not going to waste my time and just mope around. I try to move quickly and efficiently rather than work slowly for a low hourly rate.
Then you're looking at $450-$500 for the job. Make sure he realizes he got a 50% discount then, or he may expect that to be your set rate and word-of-mouth advertise to others.
Of course, that's assuming you're fine with billing out at $20/hr as a non-reporting entity.
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#36
trust me, he doesnt care about your labor cost! 300 done in 10 hours, or 4 hours, he is comfortable paying 300 for a job well done! If someone says, but you only worked 3 hours, you shouldnt charge 300, you need to drop that client (if they dont drop you) because they are not looking at the real point to them spending 300...for your knowledge, expertise, manual labor, supply cost, etc. Its not just as simple as you worked 3 hours, thats good for $60 bucks when you transformed a car from a oxidized rust bucket to something worth driving again! You arent necessarily selling your time, you are selling the value in your efforts, and getting paid for your time along the way.
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2012bangbang1 (12-01-2012)
#40
Real quality details typically range about 500-6,000, with the average of about 1,500-2,000. That's for a full paint correction, not just slapping wax and tire shine on the tires. There's guys who won't detail for less than $8,000 per car.
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