[DFW] What have you done to your G Today?
I fully agree. The stock tune is mild enough that you could do some serious bot on mods without a tune. You won't get the power that the mods boast without it, but it's not required. You will notice a major difference though if you go to Steve Kan. That guys is sick.. Trust me. He gets flown all over North America by different groups to do tunes almost on a per weekend basis. Worth the money, worth the wait.
just a word of advice tony. I had my timing advanced 2 degrees and when I started putting on some aftermarket intakes, I had to turn that back. I found on the intake dyno day that I started getting a pinging. some intakes I had to decrease timing to -2 (+2-2 is the limits of cipher)
seriously duelper4mance knows what hes talking about. all the research I've done on Steve points to him being a seriously good tuner. I don't know many people that get flown around the world for their tuning abilities. It's really nice to have that talent local.
once I get some details Ironed out I'll make a thread for tuning signup
seriously duelper4mance knows what hes talking about. all the research I've done on Steve points to him being a seriously good tuner. I don't know many people that get flown around the world for their tuning abilities. It's really nice to have that talent local.
once I get some details Ironed out I'll make a thread for tuning signup
Now you're making me want a tune to realize the gains from my bolt on mods.. I have intake, 1/2" spacer, Berk HFCs and Fuji exhaust.. I got a +2 degree tune by Adam and noticed the car gained a little pep in responsiveness but nothing more. So you're saying that I'd really notice some substantial gains w/ a proper tune from Steve w/ those bolt on mods?
Back in the old days, a person would advance their timing a few degrees, and change the jets in their carb. This could really change the attitude of a motor.. Today, you can literally squeeze out ever last drop of power out of a motor with a proper tune. There is so much involved. More than a chip, or an over the internet tune can possibly offer. It really takes an expert, with the proper tools.. That my friend, is Steve Kan, and I can guarantee only one thing.. Steve will squeeze out every possible bit of Horse Power, and Torque. Every part that you add changes the all the variables of your tune. The only way to make that part work as efficiently as possible is to tune for it. Example: I was at Steve's shop a few years back tuning my Integra. I already had one of the best headers on the market, full 2 1/2" exhaust, and the best intake.. I topped out on power, so Steve suggested that I get a test pipe to open it up just a little more. I agreed, and opted to gut my high flow cat.. Before I re-tuned, I lost some serious power. After the re-tune, I ended up losing a pony or so on the top end, but gained massive amounts of torque. The end result was a LOT more usable power. That one change made a huge difference that I never would have seen had I not re-tuned.
Found this on Steve's site:
Quote: "Here's a dyno chart on a G35 turbo I tune running a haltech platnium pro on pump gas. The engine is sleeved, pistons, rods, head, cam, 1600cc injectors, 3 fuel pumps. I'll be doing a E85 tune later in the week."
Quote: "Here's a dyno chart on a G35 turbo I tune running a haltech platnium pro on pump gas. The engine is sleeved, pistons, rods, head, cam, 1600cc injectors, 3 fuel pumps. I'll be doing a E85 tune later in the week."
Indeed.. I was rocking 13.5:1 compression in my B20vtec Integra. I couldn't even run 93 octane without detonation under load. I converted to E85, and pulled close to 200hp on Steve's mustang dyno, which would be about 230 on a dynojet. I miss that car.. I should have never sold it..
But yea, its all about the E85. Because of its effective octane, it resists detonation much like C16 race fuel. That means you can push the timing more, and run a little more lean, which equals MOAR power!
But yea, its all about the E85. Because of its effective octane, it resists detonation much like C16 race fuel. That means you can push the timing more, and run a little more lean, which equals MOAR power!
Some studies have shown that some older cars need to have their fuel systems updated due to the alcohol content drying seals and hoses in the fuel system, but ours are new enough that we won't have that issue. Our cars use newer technology that is made for using ethanol based fuels.
Other than that, just remember how much you'll use. You can count on using about 30% more fuel than pump gas. If you boost, plan on using quite a bit of fuel. That means a much bigger fuel pump(s), and lines, as well as injectors.
The benefits however... IMHO, are worth it if its not your daily.. E85 is sick.. Smells great, you can boost WAY more. If I was boosting a G35 that wasn't my daily, and price wasn't in the equation, I wouldn't even think twice.



