well, i would say that, the sedan was more of a luxury feel, while the Z is a go cart feeling sports car, the ride is bumpy and you sit really low, the sedan really swayed a lot to me, i really like both cars in 100% different way... the gearing in the 6MT is unreal compared to the 5AT and i feel bad for anyone who has stock gearing and the 5AT.

everyone looks and compliments the Z, everyday, the G i might of only got a few looks and compliments, it was a brilliant silver sedan though, so it kinda blended in.

both are great cars for sure, one is more for a person who has a wife and kids, and one is more for someone who doesnt...

its practical vs. not practical

 

Something will break.....half-shaft, clutch, engine mount, window switch I still think you'd see significantly better 60 foots and 330 foot if you launched at 3000-4000 with a bit of clutch slip. I know they're completely different cars and setups, but originally with the Maxima I tried to launch aware from 1,100 to 2,500rpms and all I got was horrible wheelspin and I could never get better than high 2.2 60 foots and usually 2.3 60 foots. I was convinced that launching higher and with clutch slippage would only make things a lot worse. Finally after 1.5 years of screwing around the 1,100-2,500rpm launches, I decided to rev up to 4,500rpms, slip the clutch a little, and tip-toe through most of 1st. That landed me my first 2.1 60 foot. The wheelspin and wheelhop wasn't remotely as bad and I came off the line right at 3,000rpms and it never fell below that. Not only did my 60 foots change a lot, my 330' did too because I was using less of 1st. My ETs instantly dropped .2. The more I practiced, the easier it became and high to mid 2.1 60 foots were common and I quickly shed a solid .25 seconds overall, on average. MPHs didn't really change. I basically went from low 15s@94mph to solid 14.7s@94mph. The tires I usually ran on were 7 y/o mostly bald OEM 215/60R15 Goodyear A/S RSAs and they held on just fine as I added more power (14.3s@100mph). I found that launching on A/S or more performance focused rubber netted the same 60 foots. Performance rubber is better for lateral acceleration and not really straightline acceleration....at least at the track.

With RWD, the traction and launch is infinitely easier. I don't see the G35 can't pedal out 1.9s and 2.0s like the 350Z crowd does. The ones that are quickest do launch high and slip the clutch a little. You can't get greedy with the throttle either. It's hard to be patient when you're racing, but got WOT in 1st right from the get go on street tires usually won't result in the best launch. At least that's my experience.

 

I might try some higher rpms the next time I go, but I'm still concerned about the clutch. You've seen the threads about the clutch getting stuck(you've respondent to a few ), well as you know that happened to me once while normal driving. At that time, I was between 3500 and 4000, though I don't know *exactly*. I have a feeling that my clutch won't let me launch at much more than 3k. The previous trip(last week) there was a guy in a 05 6MT Coupe, with 3k miles on the odo. His clutch was slipping the entire night, and he was trying multiple launch/feathering techniques between 3k and 4k rpms.

 

Wow Trey you have kicked DaveB's butt at the track and that is with your stock 18's. Imagine if you used 17's like DaveB. WOW rocked!

 

i would like to say congratulations.... well to Gting, for actually saying something semi-nice.... im just kidding, not trying to start another war...

 

Well, 6mt, and 05 sedan over a auto doggie door 03. One of these days people will admit the 03 Doggie doors are the slowest of the G35s. This was proven a while back.

 

I can think of at least one person who is going to want to rip you a new one for that. My guess is that it won't be on here either.

 

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Damn! Nice time TH

 

Nope, that one person is the one who told me .

 

Appreciate the props, but technically, I wasn't on my stock 18's. I'm on my kazera's, which with my kumho's, weigh almost exactly the same.

And I didn't kick his butt. We've never raced.

 

Last time I checked, my 03 5AT sedan with a Z-pipe posted a quicker ET than your 04 6MT Find me the slips of a stock or lightly modded 03.5+ G355AT sedan running quicker than a low 14.3 or posting 98mph traps and I'll believe you. As far as I know, AudilbleMayhem got a 14.2@96mph in his stock 03 (pretty sure he had an 03) and BossSho did a 14.3 in his stock 03. From my searches, there is no difference between an 03 5AT sedan and any other year sedan 5AT.


More RWHP/RWTQ, better gearing, more mods, icy cold weather, lower elevation track, negative DA conditions, etc.....I'd hope to God he would be a lot quicker and faster than my 03 5AT sedan We'll see how our car compare when I get to run at his track in Feb. He should still kill me regardless.

 

You're right. I forgot about this issue on some of the later model 6MTs. That's too bad because it really is holding you back, especially if you ever want to get drag tires. With DRs or slicks, a 4000-5500rpm launch is mandatory in order to get sub 2.0 60 foots. Launching at 2500-3000rpms on a sticky tire will bog the car horribly.

 

More mods? And what mods would you be talking about? We share the ztube, and as far as I know, the filter as well.

That leaves me with a midpipe and crawford cats. Midpipe... bleh for performance. Sure, I lost some weight, but the 05 stock midpipe was already less than half the mass of the 04(just a guess, haven't weighed them). And just yesterday you said the crawfords were dyno proven to not do anything. In fact, they might have lost power. So you want me to take off my cats when you come down??
just kidding of course. Poking fun.

 

I think the soft clutch engagement of the stock clutch combined with the heavy dual mass flywheel are leading to smoked clutches.

The heavy flywheel adds to the problem of the soft clutch engagement. It adds up to more heat. With a grabbier clutch, the heavy flywheel could be a good advantage at the starting line. But as it sits, it is way to easy to slip and heat the stock clutch.

The Z should have the same clutch and flywheel as the G, but the Z is significantly lighter. Because of the lighter vehicle, the soft factory clutch is under as much load. It can grab and go.

Now.........what clutch do I get......RPS? ACT? Clutchmasters? and......to Flywheel or not to flywheel??? aluminum or chomoly??? I hate having to guess!!!

 

Don't guess, just do it. If you end up wasting your money, sure that sucks for you, but at least I'll know what to go with when it's my time