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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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From what I have read and seen over the years here is what I think is pretty accurate:

03.5-current all sport models (which include 6MTs) have vlsd - Sedans
03-current all sport model coupes have vlsd.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
From what I have read and seen over the years here is what I think is pretty accurate:

03.5-current all sport models (which include 6MTs) have vlsd - Sedans
03-current all sport model coupes have vlsd.
where does AT fall into that?... I havent seen anything valid anywhere that indicates pre 05 AT has vlsd as standard or an option. I'm not suggesting your post says it does, but the one a few posts up does.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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No sport model in any year had vlsd including the new sedans.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
No sport model in any year had vlsd including the new sedans.

Beginning in 05 it was an "option" for the AT - the MT came with it... prior to 05 no option at all for AT.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
I don’t believe this is all accurate... I know the sales brochure does not mention vlsd as an option for any line AT until 2005. I don’t believe the AT in 04 had the option.

Also, are you positive all 04 were 17" and no 18" option?
Absolutely positive that 2004's only offered 17"'s, and ALSO absolutely positive that VLSD was not available on '03's in USA. I tried to buy one, and had to special order my '04 specifically because the VLSD was not available on US models until '04 (some Canadian cars were reported to have received VLSD late in model year '03, I can't nor care to confirm).

Maybe the sale staff's lied to me, but I went to 7 different Northern California dealerships and dealt with the Fleet Sales Managers every time (who were also the Internet Sales Managers and the most seasoned, knowledgeable sales staff members) - story was the same everywhere - if you want VLSD, gotta wait till '04, and then it comes standard on ALL Sport Package cars, auto and manual. Bought my car from The Hendrick Motorsports Sales Group dealership in Pleasanton, California.

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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^You just comfirmed what i said. 03.5+ sport, auto or manual, were offered with VLSD.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
^You just comfirmed what i said. 03.5+ sport, auto or manual, were offered with VLSD.
why doesn’t the sales brochure mention it as an option? In fact, I “think” the 04 brochure specifically indicates its not an option for AT... I'm going to scan it tonight and post up.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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I just double checked the sales brochures for 04 and 05… and in fact 2004 does not make any mention at all anywhere about vlsd being offered (neither standard or as an option) for MT or AT. *17” were the only wheel option (I wasn’t sure about that one, but yes in fact that’s accurate).

In 2005 brochure vlsd is “standard on 6MT Sports-tuned suspension package” and “available” for the “standard G35” with sports-tuned suspension package… “standard G35” I presume being AT (which is odd because typically “standard” refers to standard transmission as in stick shift/manual transmission/ aka MT).

Anyway – I don’t know why the sales geeks would tell you guys vlsd is available in 03.5 and 04 (especially AT) when the sales brochure doesn’t even mention it… then again, there are boatloads of posts about stupid things sales people say and how they don’t know jack **** about the car they are selling. And lets face it – 99/100 people wouldn’t even know whether they had any type of lsd – so the sales guy can say it and almost always not have repercussion… So – someone post up their sales invoice that shows a pre-05 AT with vlsd.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
I just double checked the sales brochures for 04 and 05… and in fact 2004 does not make any mention at all anywhere about vlsd being offered (neither standard or as an option) for MT or AT. *17” were the only wheel option (I wasn’t sure about that one, but yes in fact that’s accurate).

In 2005 brochure vlsd is “standard on 6MT Sports-tuned suspension package” and “available” for the “standard G35” with sports-tuned suspension package… “standard G35” I presume being AT (which is odd because typically “standard” refers to standard transmission as in stick shift/manual transmission/ aka MT).

Anyway – I don’t know why the sales geeks would tell you guys vlsd is available in 03.5 and 04 (especially AT) when the sales brochure doesn’t even mention it… then again, there are boatloads of posts about stupid things sales people say and how they don’t know jack **** about the car they are selling. And lets face it – 99/100 people wouldn’t even know whether they had any type of lsd – so the sales guy can say it and almost always not have repercussion… So – someone post up their sales invoice that shows a pre-05 AT with vlsd.
AND "YOU" GUYS ARE STARTING TO TICK ME OFF! DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ IN A "STUPID" SALES BROCHURE, EITHER !!

Here are a couple of photos I just took of my original window sticker when I bought my 2004 6MT brand new in 2004. Notice under "Powertrain" the words "Limited Slip Differential" ?? That's the actual factory invoice - an itemization of the car's equipment as it was actually built and delivered. So it's your brochure's that are wrong, my friend.

Listen, if you're gonna talk about the earlier model G's, you should either OWN one, HAVE owned one, or at least done some searches of the many posts and discussions we old school "car" guys had on here back in '03 and '04, before everybody else was on to the "G" and the 05's were a glimmer in anybody's eye, and we all knew what we had.

I maintain: EVERY 2004 Sedan sold with the Sport Package came standard with VLSD, and EVERY 6MT in 2004 was factory built with a Sport Package. If an Auto was ordered with Sport Package, it got the VLSD like all the others (plus the "titanium tinted" interior trim, the stiffer shocks and sport-tuned springs, the 5-spoke 17" alloys, and the "W" rated summer performance tires).

I distinctly recall messing around on the Infiniti website and "building" my own 2004 model year G35 several times in late '03 and early '04, and when you input Sport Package, you got the VLSD, regardless of MT or Auto; and there was also an asterisk next to the Sport Package that said "Required On MT". I didn't buy a 5 A/T in 2004, so I can't show you that invoice. But, alas, I've already proven the brochures to be incomplete/incorrect/invalid (your choice).

'Nuff Said.

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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^^^ hey genius...

#1) I AM an early model G35 sedan owner

#2) the invoice you posted in for MT!!!!!


vlsd for AT WAS NOT offered

Why are you posting your invoice when the post you are "pissed off" about clearly said:
Originally Posted by OCG35
So – someone post up their sales invoice that shows a pre-05 AT with vlsd.
Let's NOT forget that the OPs issue is 3.3 with vlsd... and 3.3 is AT... and pre 05 AT had NO vlsd... so take your panty bundle and cry about it elsewhere.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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to refresh the memory of myopic members - here is the OP
Originally Posted by jefroV35
Hey everyone. I have a 2004 base g35 with leather. I just bought it about two weeks ago. its a 5spA so lsd was a option. So how can i tell? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
The answer remains the same... vlsd was not an option nor standard for any model AT in 2004.

If your "special" sale is differnt from THIS statement... please post PROOF!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
I just double checked the sales brochures for 04 and 05… and in fact 2004 does not make any mention at all anywhere about vlsd being offered (neither standard or as an option) for MT or AT. *17” were the only wheel option (I wasn’t sure about that one, but yes in fact that’s accurate).
You clearly said? Oh, so the quote above is NOT attributable to you? Because there you "clearly said" that the VLSD was not offered at ALL in 2004 - Your "proof" that there was no VLSD for 2004 AT's is your freaking "sales brochures", yet your "brochure" was and is clearly INCORRECT - therefore, what are you basing your claim on, besides flawed data? I PROVED your damned sales brochures wrong already. I didn't BUY an AT or I'd prove you wrong again. And don't throw me your stupid little "bone" with your backhanded admission I was right about the 17" wheels - I knew I was right and proved you wrong on that one, too, and I was confident throughout, unlike you.

What "special sale" are you talking about? My car was clearly a standard purchase - nothing "special", and IT HAS LSD - not "special", and not "unavailable" as you so "clearly" stated. So take my "Panty bundle" and wipe the egg off your face and YOU show some proof of your position. I proved you wrong twice - 2 out of 2, and I don't own an AT or it'd be 3 for 3.

So OK, "GENIUS", you own an early model? Where the hells' YOUR invoice? Show me your '04 Invoice with Sport Package and NO LSD - Auto or MT. Don't worry - I'll wait

Put up or shut up - GENIUS ... what a clown ...

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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what do you want a LSD for if you aren't willing to lay i tiny bit of rubber to find out if you have one?

what are you gonna do if you get one? just have it sit there??
anyways
nvm

i have a 03 AT Sedan (not sport package, it would have an S right) and everytime i go a rolling burnout (a short one at engine temp no auto abuse) i leave 2 perfect 11's that both start and stop in the same place

these kind of questions really do suck because no one really knows the answer haha
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BRice63
what do you want a LSD for if you aren't willing to lay i tiny bit of rubber to find out if you have one?

what are you gonna do if you get one? just have it sit there??
anyways
nvm

i have a 03 AT Sedan (not sport package, it would have an S right) and everytime i go a rolling burnout (a short one at engine temp no auto abuse) i leave 2 perfect 11's that both start and stop in the same place

these kind of questions really do suck because no one really knows the answer haha
Hi BRice63,

They didn't start using the "S" badge to identify Sport Package equipped models until much later, 2007 I believe. The way to tell if you have the Sport Package on an '03 just by looking is: 5 spoke 17" aluminum alloys (standard models had 6 spokes) and the silver or "titanium tint" painted interior trim on the center console, center stack, and door handles. The stiffer shocks and springs and the Limited Slip Differential (LSD) are much harder to identify, but are also included.

Also, a deeper search of the LSD question (on this site and many others) will reveal that, due to the balance in the drivetrain components as well as the fact that the car has multilink independent rear suspension, the non-LSD models will often lay down twin streaks of rubber on a burnout, too - but try it in the wet and see what happens. If both wheels spin nearly the same then (instead of just the passenger side rear tire), that's your sign it has LSD.

Don't really know why there is all the speculation and fuss - if LSD was important to you then you made sure you had it when you bought the car new (like I did), but if you bought it used, it's not that hard to find out, if you really want to. There are a number of ways to discern LSD, like jacking up the car and turning the wheels by hand to observe rotation, both in and out of gear, is one way, or having a knowledgeable shop open the differential up and take a look is another way, or finding out the part# or other definite identifying characteristics of a LSD from a knowledgeable person in a dealership parts department and then crawling under the car and checking yourself is another.

Keep having fun with your "G", that's all.

DBarnes
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dbarnes
You clearly said? Oh, so the quote above is NOT attributable to you? Because there you "clearly said" that the VLSD was not offered at ALL in 2004 - Your "proof" that there was no VLSD for 2004 AT's is your freaking "sales brochures", yet your "brochure" was and is clearly INCORRECT - therefore, what are you basing your claim on, besides flawed data? I PROVED your damned sales brochures wrong already. I didn't BUY an AT or I'd prove you wrong again. And don't throw me your stupid little "bone" with your backhanded admission I was right about the 17" wheels - I knew I was right and proved you wrong on that one, too, and I was confident throughout, unlike you.

What "special sale" are you talking about? My car was clearly a standard purchase - nothing "special", and IT HAS LSD - not "special", and not "unavailable" as you so "clearly" stated. So take my "Panty bundle" and wipe the egg off your face and YOU show some proof of your position. I proved you wrong twice - 2 out of 2, and I don't own an AT or it'd be 3 for 3.

So OK, "GENIUS", you own an early model? Where the hells' YOUR invoice? Show me your '04 Invoice with Sport Package and NO LSD - Auto or MT. Don't worry - I'll wait

Put up or shut up - GENIUS ... what a clown ...

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your rant holds no merit... You keep talking about MT and almost all of my posts have been regarding AT.

Even my quote you responded to above said "the sales brochure does not mention vlsd for MT or AT" - yet you state "I" said that... I referenced the brochure.

All your banter keeps referring to MT which isn’t even part of the original topic... re-read all my posts - all of them refer to AT - the only mention of MT is that vlsd isn’t mentioned in the brochure.

Who cares if your MT has vlsd… the point is the AT does not.
 
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