Need to change transmission fluid..
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I don't notice any difference between 4th 5th and 6th compared to 1st 2nd and 3rd.
When the transmission is cold, I find it a bit hard to engage 1st until stopped, even if only moving slowly engaging 1st is hard. all is ok when it has warmed up.
I think I would still replace the fluid if I were you.. someone may have put GL5 fluid in, which is for the differential only... it will mess with your synchros and cause difficult shifting.
Manual transmission fluid isn't expensive and you don't need much.. it's also quick an easy to change if you have a hoist.
When the transmission is cold, I find it a bit hard to engage 1st until stopped, even if only moving slowly engaging 1st is hard. all is ok when it has warmed up.
I think I would still replace the fluid if I were you.. someone may have put GL5 fluid in, which is for the differential only... it will mess with your synchros and cause difficult shifting.
Manual transmission fluid isn't expensive and you don't need much.. it's also quick an easy to change if you have a hoist.
#17
This thread has lasted entirely too long and the amount of replies with all randoms crap flushed in with decent advice. I am sure all the automatic folks will now stop giving you advice or feedback.
First and foremost OP fault for not being clear but if you read he said SHIFT into 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Most time when guys talk about shifting it is a manual unless you are talking about that girly clicker shifter craptastic switch nissan likes to call manumatic.
The nissan transmission is a chunky, heavy, notchy and direct linkage transmission. The 6mt is probably the trickiest you have driven compared to other manual vehicles. You can remove the clutch delay spring on the pedal to help with driving. You might also be getting resistance from your synchro due to wear. The 2005 model is when cd009 was introduced which has triple cone 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear syncro, 3rd gear baulk ring,5th gear baulk ring, and 5th gear.
Secondly stick with OEM nissan MTF (MANUAL TRANSMISSION FLUID). I do not have the chart handy but pretty much do 3 drain and fill and you should have a pretty good amount of new fluid over time.
You will need 10mm allen hex key to open the drain plug and fill plug. Crack open the fill plug first and then open the drain plug. If I am not mistaken you will need 4 bottles for each drain and fill
While you have the vehicle up on all 4 jack stand I would go ahead and change the diff fluid with mobil 1 75w90
Now what is the benefit of all this and the point of this long thread/reply. The fluid change will not fix all the issues with the older transmission and do not expect it to make your transmission feel like butter and extremely easy to toss into gear. The fluid will help with cleaning up the chunkyness and notchiness in the transmission but you will still feel resistance when you put it in first, second and third. The cost of 3 fluid changes is nothing compared to a cd009 with install and clutch/flywheel. I would personally do 2 fluid changes over the course of 6 months and see the benefits of it.
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First and foremost OP fault for not being clear but if you read he said SHIFT into 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Most time when guys talk about shifting it is a manual unless you are talking about that girly clicker shifter craptastic switch nissan likes to call manumatic.
The nissan transmission is a chunky, heavy, notchy and direct linkage transmission. The 6mt is probably the trickiest you have driven compared to other manual vehicles. You can remove the clutch delay spring on the pedal to help with driving. You might also be getting resistance from your synchro due to wear. The 2005 model is when cd009 was introduced which has triple cone 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear syncro, 3rd gear baulk ring,5th gear baulk ring, and 5th gear.
Secondly stick with OEM nissan MTF (MANUAL TRANSMISSION FLUID). I do not have the chart handy but pretty much do 3 drain and fill and you should have a pretty good amount of new fluid over time.
You will need 10mm allen hex key to open the drain plug and fill plug. Crack open the fill plug first and then open the drain plug. If I am not mistaken you will need 4 bottles for each drain and fill
While you have the vehicle up on all 4 jack stand I would go ahead and change the diff fluid with mobil 1 75w90
Now what is the benefit of all this and the point of this long thread/reply. The fluid change will not fix all the issues with the older transmission and do not expect it to make your transmission feel like butter and extremely easy to toss into gear. The fluid will help with cleaning up the chunkyness and notchiness in the transmission but you will still feel resistance when you put it in first, second and third. The cost of 3 fluid changes is nothing compared to a cd009 with install and clutch/flywheel. I would personally do 2 fluid changes over the course of 6 months and see the benefits of it.
https://g35driver.com/forums/engine-...ange-pics.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/drivetr...t-rebuild.html
Last edited by faiz23; 09-13-2012 at 08:33 PM.
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I partially agree with what faiz23 said. A fluid change is unlikely to make things better if the correct oil is currently used. However, I have known people to use the incorrect fluid, or use a GL4/5 fluid and it has caused difficult shifting, and swapping out the fluid with a GL4 fluid of the correct weight fixed the issues.
Also, every gear has a baulk ring.. on the CD009 1st, 2nd and 3rd use a triple cone synchroniser, 4th uses as dual cone, and a single cone on other gears.
Baulk rings have a different function than a synchro cone so both are required..
There is also not much need to do more than one drain/refill. Unlike Auto transmissions, all the oil is drained when you pull the drain plug on the 6MT. If you think it is particularly dirty, you could do a 2nd change to flush out any gunge left.
The hand pump for the fluid is recommended.. I did mine without one and it was rather awkward.
Also, every gear has a baulk ring.. on the CD009 1st, 2nd and 3rd use a triple cone synchroniser, 4th uses as dual cone, and a single cone on other gears.
Baulk rings have a different function than a synchro cone so both are required..
There is also not much need to do more than one drain/refill. Unlike Auto transmissions, all the oil is drained when you pull the drain plug on the 6MT. If you think it is particularly dirty, you could do a 2nd change to flush out any gunge left.
The hand pump for the fluid is recommended.. I did mine without one and it was rather awkward.
#22
This WTF.
OP: 3rd gear 'crunch' is fairly common on this car. If you're having issues in all gears then you have something else going on. How is going into reverse?
4 most likely causes for gear issues IMO:
Throwout Bearing/Pilot bushing/Clutch issues - Any noises when idling on or off the clutch? Any noises when using the clutch?
Worn/mis-alligned Shifter linkage/shift rails
Low/High or excessively worn out fluid.
Physical internal transmission damage/excessive wear.
Withtout knowing the service history, or even the Mileage of the car, I'd assume that those are listed in the most likely order. Post the mileage/history though.
OP: 3rd gear 'crunch' is fairly common on this car. If you're having issues in all gears then you have something else going on. How is going into reverse?
4 most likely causes for gear issues IMO:
Throwout Bearing/Pilot bushing/Clutch issues - Any noises when idling on or off the clutch? Any noises when using the clutch?
Worn/mis-alligned Shifter linkage/shift rails
Low/High or excessively worn out fluid.
Physical internal transmission damage/excessive wear.
Withtout knowing the service history, or even the Mileage of the car, I'd assume that those are listed in the most likely order. Post the mileage/history though.
#23
But I went to a garage today and talked to someone who worked their. Not quite sure if he was an official mechanic or not but this is what happened. I told him my issue. I told him that shifting from 1st to 2nd to 3rd wasnt very smooth and the shifter didn't slide right in like I feel it should. After taking it for a test drive and checking out my fluid, he said that there is nothing wrong with my clutch, synchros, T fluid, or gears. He said that this must be "normal" for our cars and changing the fluid wont do much.
I am not 100% sure if I believe him. So I ask you 6MT owners out there, do any of you experience what I do? Or does your shifter go into gear incredibly smoothly? Please let me know.
And thanks for the responses.
I am not 100% sure if I believe him. So I ask you 6MT owners out there, do any of you experience what I do? Or does your shifter go into gear incredibly smoothly? Please let me know.
And thanks for the responses.
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Should I use stock transmission fluid?
What's up guys. I have an 05 6MT. For a while now, my gearbox has been very sticky. It desn't feel lubricated at all. I feel like every time I shift gears, I am forcing the shifter into its next position. It just isn't right. I've decided to get my transmission fluid changed hoping that will fix my problem. Should I get the stock tranny fluid that comes in our cars or is there a better one that I could use to fix my problem? Thanks