In light of the New Facts I asked Unorth if they would be willing to offer a group buy - which they are thru Stillen.

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

They would be glad to facilitate a group buy. The policies our dealer must abide by for group buys are:

15-39 purchasers = 20% off the web-site price
40 or more purchasers = 25% off the web-site price

Respectfully,
Shawn Baumgartner
President & Founder
Unorthodox Racing Inc.
www.unorthodoxracing.com

<hr></blockquote>

Color choices are Blue, Red, Black and Polished


If interested, list your handle and color choice below this line. When we get up to 15 we'll take the pulse to see who wants to keep waiting for 40. Copy the names and colors to keep the thread going...thanks, ted

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Unorthodox Racing SS Pulley set thru Stillen:
15-39 purchasers = 20% off the web-site price (~$271.32)
40 or more purchasers = 25% off the web-site price (~$254.36)


1. SoCalTed - Red








'03 Sedan 5a: BS/G, Prem, Aero/Body, Sport, Nav
Click for MODS or Vote at Online Showoff

 

1. SoCalTed - Red
2. Baumer - Red

2003 G35 Coupe 6MT // Prem, Aero, Nav.
Z-Xtreme Grounding Kit // Aluminum Pedals
NAV-TV Mod & PS2 // JL 12W6v2, JL 500/1
35% Tint
Injen CAI, Borla Exhaust
Eibach Springs, Volk SF Challenges Soon!

 

1. SoCalTed - Red
2. Baumer - Red
3. nuttyprof - blue - waiting for 40

G35S 6MT
Technosquare ECU
350Z Springs & Struts
6-wire ground kit

 

Thats 20% and 25% off the regular web-site prices, not the sale prices.

$319.20 for 15-39 buyers
$299.25 for 40+

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by Unorthodox on 11/18/03 04:16 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

so...does this include the crank pulley as well? if so...add me in!

KhaL

 

LOL.....I like my pricing calculation better, Shawn. So I sit corrected...I 'll see if Adam at Stillen will throw in the belt at 40+.

-t

'03 Sedan 5a: BS/G, Prem, Aero/Body, Sport, Nav
Click for MODS or Vote at Online Showoff

 

1. SoCalTed - Red
2. Baumer - Red
3. nuttyprof - blue - waiting for 40
4. Mean Gene - Polished

 

1. SoCalTed - Red
2. Baumer - Red
3. nuttyprof - blue - waiting for 40
4. Mean Gene - Polished
5. SkylineGT - red...or polished?

2004 G35 Coupe 5AT
Black/Graphite Ltr
Tire Pkg

 

how hard is it to install these?

2003 G35 Coupe 6mt Diamond Graphite
1992 Jeep Cherokee Blk 5.5 RE lift /w 33s
AIM= bkchang79

 

1. SoCalTed - Red
2. Baumer - Red
3. nuttyprof - blue - waiting for 40
4. Mean Gene - Polished
5. SkylineGT - red...or polished?
6. YngPhllyKd - Black

 

I'd be in with you guys if I didn't already have it. :^ )

'03 AT Sedan | Brilliant Silver | Willow Leather | Sport | Premium | Aerokit w/Spoiler | Nav

 

What do pulleys do and how do they affect the factory warranty?

 

Approx. a 2 hour install in the driveway and less than 1 hour for a professional at a shop.

 

In a nutshell, they reduce the amount of accessory and pulley weight on the Crank, returning power to the engine.

From the Stillen site:
An average of 8 to 15 HP and 6 to 10 lbs.-ft. on normally aspirated engines and 10 to 18 HP and 10 to 20 lbs.-ft. on forced induction engines. Higher gains can be realized on modified engines.

Power gains are obtained in two ways. First, and most important, is the weight loss. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. With the lighter accessory pulleys, as much as 15% to 30% more power can be found. 85% of our gains are from weight loss.

The rest of the gains are from underdriving, which accounts for about 15% of the total gains. Underdriving is not pushed for two main reasons. The main reason is to keep charging systems, air conditioning, power steering, and water pumps moving fast enough for every day driving. Second, not much horsepower is gained from extreme underdriving. In most applications all of the underdriving is done with the crank pulley, not the accessory pulleys. This is done so maximize weight loss can be achieved at the crank where most of the horsepower gains are found.


Regarding the warranty (from Shawn B., owner pres of Unorthodox Racing)
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

#3. And, would it void our stock warranty on certain engine components?

Answer: Our pulleys will not void the warranty because
there is nothing the pulleys could do to cause a failure
of any other component. See the Magnusen-Moss Act
requires dealers and OE's to prove the aftermarket parts
caused a failure before they can void your warranty.
Besides our pulley will extend the life of your engine by
reducing the stress from weight and the fact that the
factory pulleys overdrive the accessories therefore
reducign their service life. For OE's thats called planned
obsolescence, they really make their money on parts
after the sale.

Respectfully,
Shawn Baumgartner

<hr></blockquote>

Read the full story here - as well as his rebuttal/clarification of the Dinan argument.

cheers, ted


'03 Sedan 5a: BS/G, Prem, Aero/Body, Sport, Nav
Click for MODS or Vote at Online Showoff

 

The crank pulley is included in the pulley sets