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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Check your plenum bolts if you have a spacer

Lately, I've been having issues with my car. It felt like it was losing a lot of power for some reason and my car's idle was irratic (normall it is at 600 rpm but started to dip down to 200 rpm and almost [but not completely] stalled). This incident occurred after I cleaned my Amsoil nano air filter (which I don't recommend btw - no matter how you clean it, it will still have dirt trapped in the folds and won't come out).

Other symptoms were that when I was cruising at 80mph on the highway, all the sudden my RPM dropped by 2000 RPMs and my engine felt like it got bogged down. Also, when I gunned it, my car would not take off like it used to and struggled to gain acceleration. I was a really unhappy camper.

So just now, I replaced my air filter with the K&N air filter again and while I was at it, I decided to check my plenum bolts to make sure they didn't loosen. To my freaking astonishment, the bolts were ALL LOOSE. I mean seriously loose!!! When I took my torque wrench to it, it turned freely. I retorqued them to 100 inch/lbs. I also torqued the bolts to those specs when I initially installed the spacer.

My recommendation is that anyone with a spacer periodically check to make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper setting.

Good news is that my car drives like a bat out of hell again. It is like I breathed new life into the motor.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Did you put the recomended thread lock on them when you installed them. Mine came with it.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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I installed properly according to the install instructions. Even used a torque wrench to tighten the bolts the first time around.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Did you put the recomended thread lock on them when you installed them. Mine came with it.
That's the first thing I thought of as well when I read the post. I assume then you also tightened the bolts in the specific order recommended?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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ya I would put some thread locker on it just to be safe and retorque and you will be good
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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That's the first thing I thought of as well when I read the post. I assume then you also tightened the bolts in the specific order recommended?
Yep...this is why I was surprised that the bolts were all loose.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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I just checked mine this past weekend and they were all loose. I did not receive thread lock with my spacer or remember being instructed to do so. I guess I will have to pull it back apart and add some thread lock. I did torque them down in the proper sequence as well.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Philly_G35
I just checked mine this past weekend and they were all loose. I did not receive thread lock with my spacer or remember being instructed to do so. I guess I will have to pull it back apart and add some thread lock. I did torque them down in the proper sequence as well.
Same here. No thread lock and no instruction to do so. I have retorqued mine twice over the last two years. The second time they weren't loose.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Thanks RXM for the heads up.

Sounds like there may have been some different instructions going around (different manufacturer?) for some. Good to check none the less.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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I'm glad that I ran into this issue and was able to diagnose the problem. Hopefully this prevents anyone else from running into issues!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I doubt the Amsoil filter was causing any sort of problem. For the lodged particles, did you try using compressed air and flowing from the non-filtering side? I believe that is the recommended procedure. The driveability issue was most definitely caused by a slight vacuum leak with the loose bolts. Mine are holding fine with 100 in/lbs and no thread locker. I'd be a little worried about using thread locker on a low torque, super brittle bolt.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I doubt the Amsoil filter was causing any sort of problem. For the lodged particles, did you try using compressed air and flowing from the non-filtering side? I believe that is the recommended procedure. The driveability issue was most definitely caused by a slight vacuum leak with the loose bolts. Mine are holding fine with 100 in/lbs and no thread locker. I'd be a little worried about using thread locker on a low torque, super brittle bolt.
Instructions on cleaning were fairly simple and I have am air compressor and vacuum to do the job. Still dirt is trapped in the folds. Therefore, I do not think you can ever truely have it cleaned. Doesn't matter to me, I'll just use it as backup when I'm servicing my K&N oil filter. I'm glad I kept it.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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good to know as this mod will be in my future
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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I had the same issues, especially the 6 bolts on top.

Got lose 3 times in a week. Because the white bolt spacer adapter is plastic.
& vacume change deflect the plenum & it get lose easy.

Wish it was metal pieces.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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I just checked mine and they are all good.
 
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