I want this in my G...............


http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=469001

 

oh fawk, someone actually had the ***** to do this !!
not a lot of 350z and G35 guys will admit that an engine model older by at least 10 years is superior to the one they got in their G's and Z's....

the 2JZ is an absolute beast, stock block has been reported in some cases to handle around 700hp... and not to mention the monster torque it puts down, I've driven my buddys 400whp TT 94 Supra and it's just fawkin peachy!

 

Actually Stock blocks have and can handle 1000+ HP...just not very reliable..but 800hp is no prob on stock motor.... I am sorry but I don't know of any motor that can do that......

I love my G but I would drop a 2J in it anytime....if I had the $$$$$$

 

Wow, that looks freakin crazy!

 

That engine sits low

 

New weight dist specification?

 

there's a thread on my350z...the 2jz with a single turbo actually weighs less than a VQ with twin turbo.

The VQ35 is gaining serious ground right now and aside from the WOW factor, this swap is useless. Next year is going to be huge for the VQ and we'll see more 1000whp+ figures (we already have a few this year).

All the 2jz nuthuggers can kiss my a$$...I'll take a built VQ35 over a 2jz any day.

 

VQ had the auto that weighs 50-60lbs more. At least that's what the thread said.

 

true...but the fact remains that the Z with the 2jz will not be front heavy

 

Not sure how your info supports that.

Z w/ TT + auto was 90lbs heavier than the 2JZ manual tranny + turbo.

So factor in a manul for the Z and it's more than 150lbs heavier. All in the wrong spot too.

I think what you are trying to say is this swap might not be THAT much heavier than a Z with a TT setup. Which could be already front heavy.

IMHO I'd take a LS2 with 450hp stock na. If I wanted 600hp+, all I'd have to add was a magnuson sc

 

The engine is not superior, it was just built to handle boost (iron block). The VQ is far superior in every way and once built can also produce tremendous power. High whp with a peak tq close to redline is for bragging rights only and has no real use on the street. built/booster VQ power curve > 2jz power curve

 

I don't see how that matters...If the 2jz is lighter than the engine it's replacing then what's the problem?

 

The 2JZ motor, is really a severly overbuilt motor. I give it more props than the RB26 series. Supra guys were getting well into 500hp with the smallest single and still used the stock injectors. The RB guys had to change WAY more things before the Supra guys did to get that hp.

If you keep the single small, you can gave decent low end on the 2jz. The power curve you are probably referring to is either from:
1) Using a higher compression ratio (but limiting ultimate hp/boost)
2) The 2jz is only 3.0 liters vs the VQ's 3.5 liters

Stock for stock, the 2jz is superior IMHO. Not only because it was built to handle boost but for the serverity of how well they overbuilt it. Plus the fact that overbuilt everything else from the ecu to the injectors. I think these guys were getting close to 350-380hp at the wheels w/ tthe stock twins?

IMHO

 

Because I don't think an iron blocked inline 6 is lighter than an aluminum block V6. If it's replacing a TT v6, it's replacing an already front heavy setup (by their logic) and adding more weight to that.

You have to remember, the VQ35 is light. it's lighter than the VQ30 it replaced and that was 100lbs lighter than the VE30DE iron block V6 it replaced.

 

It's hard to say it's superior because you're not really comparing apples to apples...in terms of boost, yes, but only because it was overbuilt like you said. But, I would rather build my VQ than put a 2jz in it

I was also refering to the high whp ST supras that had no power below 6k