2J Swapped 350Z.....
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Well I'm not sure where the Viper is even relevent to this discussion. Unless comparing some huge V10 displaced engine overpowering a 3.0 liter inline 6 is something to brag about.
BTW. 2jz owners don't drive to walmart or autozone
BTW. 2jz owners don't drive to walmart or autozone
Originally Posted by brianyun
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im sorry.
but i cant drive that to walmart or autozone.
i can take that viper to grandmas and wave at the policemen looking at me
im sorry.
but i cant drive that to walmart or autozone.
i can take that viper to grandmas and wave at the policemen looking at me
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They have one in the middle east. click on the fastest 350z in qatar link after the vid to see a daytime vid of this z.
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I don't think anyone is discounting the fact that VQ is coming into its own and there are more and more high HP ones running around each year. But you have to give credit where credit is due. A stock 2jz-gte motor can handle way more power / boost than the stock VQ35DE. Now if you want to compare stock N/A power, the VQ35DE makes more power than the 2JZ-GE motor (note GE not GTE). So in that instance, yes the VQ is superior. You really can't compare the VQ35DE to the 2JZ-GTE, its apples to oranges. One was made for boost, one was made for N/A. As stated before 2JZ-GE vs. VQ35DE is a little more apples to apples, but I think the 2JZ-GE may be less expensive to boost, but not by a huge margin, IIRC.
At the end of the day, both engines are great in their own respects and its cool that we have all these great options for powering our cars.
At the end of the day, both engines are great in their own respects and its cool that we have all these great options for powering our cars.
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good replies, but since it's raw power and speed and also reliability we're talking about here, the bottom line is.... how many daily driven 1000hp 350z's or G35's do we have in the world ?? I honestly havent heard or seen one browsing through all the automotive magazines and online videos. There's one guy up here in Vancouver where I live who drives a 770hp 350z, he bored it out to 4.2 liters, he's one of the mods on my350z.com. But other than that, not a lot of others. On the other hand, there's a shltload of single turbo daily driven Supras out there pushing around 1000whp. So when I say their engine is superior, I mean it's more reliable, it's able to handle higher horsepower easier, and it responds really REALLY well to modifications. Take a stock TT Supra, add a full exhaust and headers, turbo timer, intake and a tune and they're already pushin 400whp.
Car an Driver did this feature once and the question was, what was the fastest modified street driven car in the world, they tossed out a few names like a tweaked Veyron, twin turbo GT40, Mclaren, etc... and a few other exotics, and then the final car they listed was a Single Turbo Supra...
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
Car an Driver did this feature once and the question was, what was the fastest modified street driven car in the world, they tossed out a few names like a tweaked Veyron, twin turbo GT40, Mclaren, etc... and a few other exotics, and then the final car they listed was a Single Turbo Supra...
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
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Originally Posted by Adon
exotics, and then the final car they listed was a Single Turbo Supra...
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
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Originally Posted by Adon
good replies, but since it's raw power and speed and also reliability we're talking about here, the bottom line is.... how many daily driven 1000hp 350z's or G35's do we have in the world ?? I honestly havent heard or seen one browsing through all the automotive magazines and online videos. There's one guy up here in Vancouver where I live who drives a 770hp 350z, he bored it out to 4.2 liters, he's one of the mods on my350z.com. But other than that, not a lot of others. On the other hand, there's a shltload of single turbo daily driven Supras out there pushing around 1000whp. So when I say their engine is superior, I mean it's more reliable, it's able to handle higher horsepower easier, and it responds really REALLY well to modifications. Take a stock TT Supra, add a full exhaust and headers, turbo timer, intake and a tune and they're already pushin 400whp.
Car an Driver did this feature once and the question was, what was the fastest modified street driven car in the world, they tossed out a few names like a tweaked Veyron, twin turbo GT40, Mclaren, etc... and a few other exotics, and then the final car they listed was a Single Turbo Supra...
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
Car an Driver did this feature once and the question was, what was the fastest modified street driven car in the world, they tossed out a few names like a tweaked Veyron, twin turbo GT40, Mclaren, etc... and a few other exotics, and then the final car they listed was a Single Turbo Supra...
So the Supra already is recognized by the automotive world to be one of the fastest street legal vehicles on Earth..
#42
Originally Posted by ShadowG35
I don't think anyone is discounting the fact that VQ is coming into its own and there are more and more high HP ones running around each year. But you have to give credit where credit is due. A stock 2jz-gte motor can handle way more power / boost than the stock VQ35DE. Now if you want to compare stock N/A power, the VQ35DE makes more power than the 2JZ-GE motor (note GE not GTE). So in that instance, yes the VQ is superior. You really can't compare the VQ35DE to the 2JZ-GTE, its apples to oranges. One was made for boost, one was made for N/A. As stated before 2JZ-GE vs. VQ35DE is a little more apples to apples, but I think the 2JZ-GE may be less expensive to boost, but not by a huge margin, IIRC.
At the end of the day, both engines are great in their own respects and its cool that we have all these great options for powering our cars.
At the end of the day, both engines are great in their own respects and its cool that we have all these great options for powering our cars.
Apples and Oranges.
The VQ engines have great linear power.
NOt a ton of top end, but very smooth NA delivery all around.
the 2JZ is a bulletproof engine that has been overengineered to handle ridiculous amounts of boost (not 700 btw, closer to 900hp on stock internals)
True, the 2JZ-GE is pretty useless without FI, i think it runs a measly 220hp.....which is why you don't want to ever invest in a NA Supra that was converted to turbo....you're just buying a ticking time bomb.
I love the feel of the boost kicking in in the supra, but Ioften miss the lag-free NA power of the VQ.
so...there's my useless .02 cents.
Thank you and goodnight.
#43
Originally Posted by 617G
give it time....the VQ35 is still in it's infancy...FWIW, Injected Performance and Intense Power both have VQ's well over 1,000hp
Enough money can make most engine make insane horsepower, look at the scion tc drag car, it has a 4 cylinder from the older toyota tacoma. I had that truck with the 4 banger, and there making super high numbers.
Last edited by in2win; 12-31-2007 at 07:39 PM.
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