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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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car died and wont start again?

need help my car jus died today and it wont start again. i can crank it and it sounds like it wants to go but wont turn over just like that. lights are all on on the dash and just keeps crankin evrything works just wont start. car has full bolt ons headers cat exhaust kinetix pulleys and an osiris tune.

anyone have an idea cause im lost
 
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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what year..? have u ever replaced the battery..?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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its 04 yeah battery is new. radio everything works just wont start keeps cranking but wont turn over.

but it was running i was driving slowed down for a stop sign and just stalled out wouldnt start agin
 
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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when i turn the key to on the fan automatically turns on, im thinkin its a problem with my osiris tune it was just done 2 weeks ago before this happened anyone ever hav a similar problem with their osiris tune?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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timing belt/chain..?// do we have those..?? happened to my old car same way u said..
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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Most likely Cam Position Sensor, seems to happen a lot especially in 03-04. It's not an expensive repair, definitely not if you are a DIY guy. But unless you can get the car to start up, I'm not sure if the ECU will actually throw the check engine light (not sure about that).

That is definitely the symptom of the cam position sensor though, the car dies at idle and has a difficult time starting up again. It's the car's internal protection to prevent engine damage.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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where is this sensor located?

and yeah i cant start the car to put the scanner on
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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how can i figure out if this is it or not without the scanner? i know where they are now did a search
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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If you had no other problems beforehand and the car was driving fine, this is most likely your problem. Most other sensors would throw an engine code but leave the car running. Cam position sensor is one of the only sensors that will actually kill the engine I believe. The real question is which one. You may be able to take the car to the dealer or to a nearby shop with Consult-II and see if they can figure out which one it is (the car might throw a code when it's actually trying to crank).
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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well il change them myself so id rather just buy both and change them knowing it wont happen to the other side if i only do the one since its all aprt to
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Yea, they're not too expensive and they seem to go bad on the 03-04 quite frequently. Good luck! Hopefully that solves your problem but keep us updated and we'll try to help you out as much as possible.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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thanks just picked them both up in stock item so they must go bad pretty often installing tonight, hopefully this works thanks so far for the help much appreciated
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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i dont get it changed both cam sensors and still wont start.

i crank it and it starts to crank good but then the cranking slows down like its dead but the battery is fully charged
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Wouldn't be your battery anyway since the car died while it was running. Once its running, as long as your alternator is working a lack of power from the battery shouldn't matter. Neither does starter because, again, it died while it was running. Was it extremely hot or cold when it died? Anything out of the ordinary? Any symptoms?

EDIT: have you tried resetting your ECU by disconnecting the negative battery terminal and pressing the brake pedal a few times? Might clear any codes which are preventing it from starting. If you hear any grinding or off-noises when/if it starts up, shut it down again immediately.
 

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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temperature was normal out ecu was disconnected and i even brough it to an osiris dealer and reflashed it again incase it had crashed still no go
 
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