Lifetime Oil Filter
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Lifetime Oil Filter
http://www.hopupracing.com/troilfiing35.html
Anyone use this or considered using this? I am going to be purchasing this soon. I tell you this would be a good investment because I have a similar oil filter on my motorcycle. So far it has paid for itself in the long run as far as maintenance. The site explains that the oil filter also adds Horsepower. I dont know how that works as I see it for in benefits in maintenance. Any Thoughts?
Anyone use this or considered using this? I am going to be purchasing this soon. I tell you this would be a good investment because I have a similar oil filter on my motorcycle. So far it has paid for itself in the long run as far as maintenance. The site explains that the oil filter also adds Horsepower. I dont know how that works as I see it for in benefits in maintenance. Any Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by dwoloz
I really dont trust this kind of stuff
I mean, a filter is made to FILTER particles. These particles get trapped hence the filter needing to be replaced. So either this filter doesnt filter at all or it has some magic method to filter but not have any particulates trapped
I mean, a filter is made to FILTER particles. These particles get trapped hence the filter needing to be replaced. So either this filter doesnt filter at all or it has some magic method to filter but not have any particulates trapped
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dunno, like I said, I was skeptacle at 1st when I bought a similar oil filter for my ZX. Given i change out my oil before and after track days. So within my 7k miles of street and (mostly) track riding on my ZX, i wouldve spent over $100 in oil filters alone. That's one scenario and a reason why it had already paid for itself. Since I also do Track Days with my G35, i treat the oiling in the same manner as my ZX, where I change the oil before and after, it's probably not needed but it's just racer antics and habits I have from racing motorcycles and it serves as good preventive maintenance becuase, by seeing what's in the filter can tell a good story about your car, ie. metal shavings, shrapnels and such. So in my case it would be worth it. In my, 22k I have changed the oil and oil filter 12 times. So in that 12 and buying a $10 K&N oil filter, I've spent $120. So buy the next 2 or 3 changes, it had already paid for itself. It's too bad this oil filter wasnt available at the time I purchased the car.
The filtering technology is tried and true in NASCAR, and in a AMA Racing. One may think it's a gimmick, I know it works, being backed up by major associations that uses the same technology.
The filtering technology is tried and true in NASCAR, and in a AMA Racing. One may think it's a gimmick, I know it works, being backed up by major associations that uses the same technology.
Last edited by 636Racer; 06-16-2005 at 03:45 PM.
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Originally Posted by 636Racer
dunno, like I said, I was skeptacle at 1st when I bought a similar oil filter for my ZX. Given i change out my oil before and after track days. So within my 7k miles of street and (mostly) track riding on my ZX, i wouldve spent over $100 in oil filters alone. That's one scenario and a reason why it had already paid for itself. Since I also do Track Days with my G35, i treat the oiling in the same manner as my ZX, where I change the oil before and after, it's probably not needed but it's just racer antics and habits I have from racing motorcycles and it serves as good preventive maintenance becuase, by seeing what's in the filter can tell a good story about your car, ie. metal shavings, shrapnels and such. So in my case it would be worth it. In my, 22k I have changed the oil and oil filter 12 times. So in that 12 and buying a $10 K&N oil filter, I've spent $120. So buy the next 2 or 3 changes, it had already paid for itself. It's too bad this oil filter wasnt available at the time I purchased the car.
The filtering technology is tried and true in NASCAR, and in a AMA Racing. One may think it's a gimmick, I know it works, being backed up by major associations that uses the same technology.
The filtering technology is tried and true in NASCAR, and in a AMA Racing. One may think it's a gimmick, I know it works, being backed up by major associations that uses the same technology.
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I'm a little skeptical of this. Are they saying that just because the oil is cleaner, it will not be affected by thermal breakdown? That's the main reason we change our oil, not the fact that it gets dirty. If it was just the contaminants, we would simply replace the filter and leave the oil in. This is why synthetic can recommend a longer change interval, not because synthetic "stays cleaner".
I'm wondering about some of the marketing comments also like:
True, most factory filters (not all paper filters though) have a bypass. Even assuming that all bypasses "start" to open at 12 psi, they are not designed in a binary way. Some oil is always passing through the filter element, unless the element is totally clogged (which is the real reason why filters have a bypass). I wonder what would happen with the UltraFilter that doesn't have a bypass if it totally clogged? Anybody heard of the issue with the Volkswagen 1.8T motors? Not good!
Curt
I'm wondering about some of the marketing comments also like:
Paper filters have a “Bypass” that opens at 12 lbs of pressure. Most motors idle at 11lbs of pressure. At 12 lbs, the bypass opens and filtering stops. All of the dirt and metals are then sent back into your motor. Paper filters only filter 10-20% of their actual life.
Curt
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Wow! This oil filter certainly seems impressive... almost too good to be true. Has anyone tested this filter?
While the claims for the ULTRA FILTER may be true, here are my initial thoughts.
Does it meet the manufacturer's warrantee requirements?
"ULTRA FILTER, filters your oil an absolute 35 micron with one pass... "
Possible I suspose.
"Adding performance parts to your vehicles engine creates more pressure in the oil filter, this causing your oil filter to swell and compress, damaging oil seals and putting large stress figures on your oil pump."
Possible? I don't see why this occurs, especially with the usual intake and exhaust mods. Also it seems to me that the small amount of oil required for a subercharger/turbocharger may slightly lower the oil pressure, not increase it.
"Average HP gains are 5-6. Also with the engine running more efficient, you should see an average of 1-2 mpg."
I don't understand how an oil filter can increase horsepower and gas mileage. Can anyone help me out?
While the claims for the ULTRA FILTER may be true, here are my initial thoughts.
Does it meet the manufacturer's warrantee requirements?
"ULTRA FILTER, filters your oil an absolute 35 micron with one pass... "
Possible I suspose.
"Adding performance parts to your vehicles engine creates more pressure in the oil filter, this causing your oil filter to swell and compress, damaging oil seals and putting large stress figures on your oil pump."
Possible? I don't see why this occurs, especially with the usual intake and exhaust mods. Also it seems to me that the small amount of oil required for a subercharger/turbocharger may slightly lower the oil pressure, not increase it.
"Average HP gains are 5-6. Also with the engine running more efficient, you should see an average of 1-2 mpg."
I don't understand how an oil filter can increase horsepower and gas mileage. Can anyone help me out?
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Even if it does work like it says, who the hell is going to want to clean old black oil off of the inside of the filter. Also you would have to spend like an hour making sure the filter is absolutely clean of all particles (most of which you cant even see, but will hurt flow over time). Sound like a lot of work for someone lazy like me. I'm still recooperating from my header install 6 months ago.
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What a bunch of horsesh!t. Gotta break out the old muffler bearings again...Who would want to trust their claims. The 5 hp gain should tip everyone off. You cant believe that so how can you believe anything else they say. Its right up there with the tornado, except this one can cause engine damage.
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I can't imagine that it would be pleasant to clean! And HP claims from an oil filter? Does this mean that if you by-passed the filter altogether, that you'd see even more gains?
Maybe someone has to drill out the filter media of a stock filter and do a couple of dyno runs!
And don't forget to pour a bit of fine emery powder in there as well. It'll help "hone" the cylinder walls for faster break-in of new engines, and increased hp!
(j/k, BTW. Don't do it, and of course, I'm not responsible for any increased perception of power in your engine...or not )
Maybe someone has to drill out the filter media of a stock filter and do a couple of dyno runs!
And don't forget to pour a bit of fine emery powder in there as well. It'll help "hone" the cylinder walls for faster break-in of new engines, and increased hp!
(j/k, BTW. Don't do it, and of course, I'm not responsible for any increased perception of power in your engine...or not )