Riddle me this...resetting ECU vs Driving hard
#46
#47
Originally Posted by doogie
All it's going to do is change timing and air/fuel mix to make the car perform within the parameters defined in it's tables.
There are 3 maps the ECU works from. (1) Agressive, (2) Normal and (3) Safe mode. A ECU reset will put you on the first map.
The ECU will keep you on the first map untill it is given a reason not to. IE the ECU constantly monitors for ping both in frequency and intensity. If ping exceeds a threshold for frequency and/or intensity it will down select to the 2nd map with an associated reduction in timing. The reduction in timing is safer for the engine. Ping can be caused by running lean, bad gas or other reasons.
Interestingly enough, the first map gets the best gas milage because of the timing advance.
Originally Posted by doogie
It probably does this a lot more conservatively when armed with the last 100 miles worth of data to average out the numbers, and a lot more aggressively when it's starting at ground zero. But I propose that any changes perceived by an ECU reset are very short-term.
But either way, a ECU reset can make an objectively measurable difference.
#48
Originally Posted by LuXXXz
so the ecu should be restet for 12hrs???
im getting real ****ty gas mileage, i mean like 16mpg, and do i have to reset the battery and then just connect it the next day, or is there anything else that needs to be done???
im getting real ****ty gas mileage, i mean like 16mpg, and do i have to reset the battery and then just connect it the next day, or is there anything else that needs to be done???
You can get less than that on the race track but if you are doing that on the street, it almost sounds like something is wrong with the A/F or you are driving like a mad man.
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#50
Originally Posted by DaveB
For those that are setting their ECUs, how often are you doing it?
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#51
Originally Posted by DaveB
For those that are setting their ECUs, how often are you doing it?
#52
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
16 MPG IS real chitty.
You can get less than that on the race track but if you are doing that on the street, it almost sounds like something is wrong with the A/F or you are driving like a mad man.![Wink](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
You can get less than that on the race track but if you are doing that on the street, it almost sounds like something is wrong with the A/F or you are driving like a mad man.
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whats a/f??
and no actually im babying it still, i get on it once in a while but not like a mad man???
what do you recommend i do??
#53
Bring it to the dealer and ask them to check it and diagnose any potential problems. 16 is too low. My truck gets better than that.
A/F is the air/fuel ratio. You may be running excessivly rich. In addition to giving you low gas milage, it would stink and make sooty exhaust. You have any of that?
A/F is the air/fuel ratio. You may be running excessivly rich. In addition to giving you low gas milage, it would stink and make sooty exhaust. You have any of that?
#54
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Bring it to the dealer and ask them to check it and diagnose any potential problems. 16 is too low. My truck gets better than that.
A/F is the air/fuel ratio. You may be running excessivly rich. In addition to giving you low gas milage, it would stink and make sooty exhaust. You have any of that?
A/F is the air/fuel ratio. You may be running excessivly rich. In addition to giving you low gas milage, it would stink and make sooty exhaust. You have any of that?
#55
i dont beat on my car at all whatsoever, and i can understand that kind of mileage with the a/c on but it seems like its the same with a/c or without, the hwy is a little better though with 80% hwy and 20 city i got like 19mpg, but in city with or without a/c it hasent been better than 16mpg yet
#56
Originally Posted by LuXXXz
i dont beat on my car at all whatsoever, and i can understand that kind of mileage with the a/c on but it seems like its the same with a/c or without, the hwy is a little better though with 80% hwy and 20 city i got like 19mpg, but in city with or without a/c it hasent been better than 16mpg yet
#59
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I have to say that this thread has been the most technically interesting and polarized discussion I've read in the short time I've been here. No pissing contests, no name-calling, no juvenile I'm-taking-my-VQ-and-going-home attitude from anyone.
Two observations: One, this discussion could never take place on the coupe forum; and two, if the three air/fuel/spark advance maps really exist in the ECU, I've learned something really interesting. Thanks.
But I still stand by my assertion that resetting the ECU results in, at best, very short-term performance gains. Might be good at the dragstrip though if they'll let you stage and take a break for several hours before making your run. The guy in the Camaro next to you might get impatient, though.
Two observations: One, this discussion could never take place on the coupe forum; and two, if the three air/fuel/spark advance maps really exist in the ECU, I've learned something really interesting. Thanks.
But I still stand by my assertion that resetting the ECU results in, at best, very short-term performance gains. Might be good at the dragstrip though if they'll let you stage and take a break for several hours before making your run. The guy in the Camaro next to you might get impatient, though.
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#60
Well I did it. I reset my ECU almost 2 days ago and here's what I've noticed over the past 36 hours of driving:
1) The intake (Z-tube and powerduct cover removed) got much quieter. The induction noise doesn't have near the authority it had prior to the reset. This is the same exact thing I noticed in my Maxima after a reset. It will probably be a few more days until that sound comes back
2) The tranny shifts slightly firmer during normal driving. I kind of expected this because the tranny is adaptive and it's learning my driving. It still shifts at 6400rpm it left alone and 6800rpms if manually shifted, just like it did prior to the reset. WOT up/downshift firmness is the same.
That's it. I noticed absolutely no increase in power. If anything, the car feels slightly less responsive, just as I noticed in my Maxima after resetting the ECU.
1) The intake (Z-tube and powerduct cover removed) got much quieter. The induction noise doesn't have near the authority it had prior to the reset. This is the same exact thing I noticed in my Maxima after a reset. It will probably be a few more days until that sound comes back
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2) The tranny shifts slightly firmer during normal driving. I kind of expected this because the tranny is adaptive and it's learning my driving. It still shifts at 6400rpm it left alone and 6800rpms if manually shifted, just like it did prior to the reset. WOT up/downshift firmness is the same.
That's it. I noticed absolutely no increase in power. If anything, the car feels slightly less responsive, just as I noticed in my Maxima after resetting the ECU.