not true. they can reverse the charge, even if he already took the money out of his paypal account. you *will* get your money back. file a claim.

 

Then please explain how I didn't get my $400 back the first time I filed?

All Pay Pal can do is "reverse charge" any remaining money in his PayPal account. If he has removed it, there is nothing to return.

 

That's why I use my CC mostly when doing transactions through Paypal.
Your at least covered and can do a charge back on your CC if paypal can't do anything for you. If its a known person in the forum with alot of feedback then I have no issues using my checking through paypal.

 

I use my amex for all big purchase they have no ? asked with stuff like this

 

we should only buy from people on here that are trusted by this site or by a friend or something like that ! there has been alot of scamming going on here lately and its starting to **** me off !

 

Dude I have had a paypal account for years..... Thats not how paypal works.... Your paypal account is linked directly to your personal bank account. When a claim is filed paypal sends the seller a message stating if you do not provide us with a tracking number or proof of shipment within a number of days we will take action. After the seller (which is the scammer in this case) refuses to act paypal takes the money directly from their bank account and sends it to you.

If you guys have any more questions PM me..

Dont worry you will def get your money back 100%.... With Paypal you as the buyer are always protected.

 

^^ you didnt do something right...... I bought a big money item on ebay over $800 and the seller never sent me the product nor responded to my emails. Paypal sent me back all of my money.

 

All true, but if he take the money out right after the transaction there is NOTHING TO RETURN. It happened to me the first time. The guy removed all but $32.50 from his account so a got bubbkus.

They can't pull anything out of his bank account without his permission or a Court order.

 

I filed a claim. They sent a "strongly worded email" to the seller. After 10 days with no response, they went into his account and found $32 and returned it to me. They never checked on it again and closed the claim. I have no recorse because once PP closes a claim, it cannot be re-opened for any reason.

 

Dude that makes no sense. If this was true everyone would be getting scammed. Thats not how it works.... Paypal gives all your money back not whatever is in his paypal. They dont need a court order, its stated in the paypal user agreement when you register. Paypal can take it out of their bank account.

 

If he only has $32 in his bank account thats all they can get back.
Scammer gets his money takes it out of the account but leaves enough so account won't be closed in case he runs the scam on someone else he has some where to get his money from.

Thats why I said paying by CC through paypal will give you more recourse of getting your $$$ back in case paypal can't.

 

Exactly

PayPal can't withdraw money that's not there!

PayPal always pressures you to hook your bank account to PayPal, and you have to if you're a seller, but you don't have to if you're buying something.

Your credit card acts as a firewall... at the end of a bad transaction, you can say "screw it" and cut up the credit card. You might take a credit hit, but that's better than losing big money.

 

Here is the facts right from my paypal acccount:

Transaction #0YM42099LT603171F

-$400.00 USD
Jul. 29, 2006
Michael Mayfield
carrie_jackson1@msn.com
Shipping address

William Albert


Status
We were able to recover $32.34 USD from the seller and processed a refund to you.

What happens next

We're working with the seller to recover the rest of your refund. We'll let you know when the seller is able to full refund your payment.


If you've resolved this problem, you can cancel this claim anytime.


Supporting documents

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8/28/2006 08:43 PDT - PayPal: Buyer escalated this dispute to a Claim.
8/28/2006 08:43 PDT - Buyer: This is what happened as on G35driver.com 07-28-2006, 06:04 PM jdmrsxs02 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)

Re: Mrev+ Quote: Originally Posted by Texasscout OK some last questions: Does this have the spacer? Does it have the Iso thermal lower (plenum to block) Aramid spacer? Is this the one for the Rev-up motor? If you can find out EXACTLY which model it is and it's the one I NEED. I'll pay you immediately.

HIM:No problem: Yes it does include the spacer, iso thermal if thats the thing that stops the coolant from freezing?? and it is for the rev- up motor as I have a 06 6mt. I also did the install myself and had someone who's done it before take a look at the install the following day. But yes everything is included and yeah I'm just trying to sell it as soon as possible as I had some really bad luck with the cops (two tickets in 1 day! lol) so yeah I have to pay them by this tuesday so if your ready to do it give me a call or something k. I also have paypal so which will make things a lot easier and safer transaction for the both of us.... thanx

08-03-2006, 08:44 PM jdmrsxs02 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)

Re: Mrev+ Quote: Originally Posted by Texasscout Haven't heard from you. Please let me know when you will ship!!!

HIM:Hey I'm extemely sorry for not getting back to you as soon as possible I don't want to get you worried or anything and yes I did recieve the money. Okay today's thursday and I haven't had anytime what so ever and it's been rain constantly but saturday for sure 100% I'm going to go ahead and send it out and I'll also include $20 inside of the package for not shipping it out asap like i said i would and I know how it feels when your waiting for something and expecting it to come in the mail, but yeah really sorry but I'll have it out packaged and everything a


8/18/2006 06:49 PDT - Buyer: I have not received the M-rev+ that you promised. If you can not provide a tracking number, I will start proceedings to get my 400 bucks back.

That's the last I ever heard of him


View case history

Sep. 7, 2006 - PayPal: Seller’s action requested
Sep. 7, 2006 - PayPal: Claim granted
Sep. 7, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to seller
Sep. 7, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to buyer
Aug. 28, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to seller
Aug. 28, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to buyer
Aug. 28, 2006 - Buyer: Dispute escalated to claim
Aug. 18, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to seller
Aug. 18, 2006 - PayPal: Email sent to buyer
Aug. 28, 2006 - Buyer: Dispute filed

 

There are a lot of people on ebay that won't take PayPal with a CC for this very reason. If there was a way to hold the buyers money in escrow until the item arrives (confirmed with sig) then this would not be a problem.

 

Then I wouldn't judge them trustworthy enough to purchase from.