Remote mounted turbo
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Remote mounted turbo
Sounds interesting. Website says that a 350Z kit will be available soon. I wonder how they deal with engine management, etc. It's definitely something different.
http://www.ststurbo.com/
http://www.ststurbo.com/
damn that sounds pretty coo. you see that picture on the website with the glowing turbo? i thought that wasnt normal but it seems like its pretty common. I thought something was wrong with my turbo.
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i talked to the guys at sts. they actually said it really doesnt have much lag or at least more than you would expect from a single turbo setup. supposedly they will be using a gt35r turbo for the kit. im very interested in this kit because the car will be so stealth with this kit on it! no intercooler necessary
The air filter is exposed to the elements sitting under the car like that, isn't it??? I would think that the air filter being in the engine bay would offer a lot more protection than that setup. Correct??? Just my .02
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What about an auxillary 2/4 stroke in trunk driving a supercharger - crank it when you need it.............not as wild as you might think. Just like using part of oem AC to chill a large volume of water for intercooler.
"Ford's patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle's air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine's intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air - resulting in a denser air charge.
A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system's readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position.
"This technology plays directly into the hands of the enthusiast," Coletti says. "The SuperCooler provides the edge for the driver, and it is done simply by taking advantage of the hardware that already exists in the vehicle."
"Ford's patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle's air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine's intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air - resulting in a denser air charge.
A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system's readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position.
"This technology plays directly into the hands of the enthusiast," Coletti says. "The SuperCooler provides the edge for the driver, and it is done simply by taking advantage of the hardware that already exists in the vehicle."
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From: Glen Rose, Texas
Originally Posted by Q45tech
What about an auxillary 2/4 stroke in trunk driving a supercharger - crank it when you need it.............not as wild as you might think. Just like using part of oem AC to chill a large volume of water for intercooler.
"Ford's patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle's air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine's intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air - resulting in a denser air charge.
A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system's readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position.
"This technology plays directly into the hands of the enthusiast," Coletti says. "The SuperCooler provides the edge for the driver, and it is done simply by taking advantage of the hardware that already exists in the vehicle."
"Ford's patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle's air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine's intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air - resulting in a denser air charge.
A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system's readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position.
"This technology plays directly into the hands of the enthusiast," Coletti says. "The SuperCooler provides the edge for the driver, and it is done simply by taking advantage of the hardware that already exists in the vehicle."
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Originally Posted by GlenRoseFireFighter
Wouldn't you waste as much HP created by a cooler air charge by running the AC?
Idea!
Remote mount turbos would fare much better on an SUV with 15" of clearance. With 5" of clearance expect trouble with this setup. The turbo will hang low, exposed to the elements.
You will run an intake pipe to the BACK of the vehicle. And this doesn't produce lag? They contradict themselves when they claim that you don't need an intercooler becomes the long pipeling allows the air to cool while traveling from the turbo to the throttle body and then they make their 'no excessive lag' claim. If the piping is long enough to cool the air sufficiently to NOT need an intercooler you can't tell me that there isn't going to be lag there. There MAY be the same lag associated with a BIG single turbo
Think what will happen when you bottom out, rupture the bottom of your intake pipe, and start sucking water and rocks in to your motor. I would hope that they would put a filter inline near the throttle body, but who knows. I doubt you would notice that the intake line has been compromised unless you get on the car regularly and notice that you arn't making boost. For most peoples driving habits, especially people who would go this route, I would imagine you could be driving around with an intake leak for quite a while before discovering the problem.
This STS remote turbo has been talked on here 10 times before. 18 months ago the 350Z kit was 'soon' to be released. STS has been out for quite a while, and remember all good ideas are eventually copied.
You will run an intake pipe to the BACK of the vehicle. And this doesn't produce lag? They contradict themselves when they claim that you don't need an intercooler becomes the long pipeling allows the air to cool while traveling from the turbo to the throttle body and then they make their 'no excessive lag' claim. If the piping is long enough to cool the air sufficiently to NOT need an intercooler you can't tell me that there isn't going to be lag there. There MAY be the same lag associated with a BIG single turbo
Think what will happen when you bottom out, rupture the bottom of your intake pipe, and start sucking water and rocks in to your motor. I would hope that they would put a filter inline near the throttle body, but who knows. I doubt you would notice that the intake line has been compromised unless you get on the car regularly and notice that you arn't making boost. For most peoples driving habits, especially people who would go this route, I would imagine you could be driving around with an intake leak for quite a while before discovering the problem.
This STS remote turbo has been talked on here 10 times before. 18 months ago the 350Z kit was 'soon' to be released. STS has been out for quite a while, and remember all good ideas are eventually copied.
I emailed these guys a long time ago when I first saw this. There are some really good vid running around of a HUGE Avalanche doing 12's in the quarter.
I asked them, what happens when you are running down the road at 80 and you hit a puddle of cold water? They said that the turbo is just not that hot. I still don't think it will be as cool as it would with a cooler, but it must cool off quite a bit. As for the lag, I didn't see much with that Avalanche!
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I asked them, what happens when you are running down the road at 80 and you hit a puddle of cold water? They said that the turbo is just not that hot. I still don't think it will be as cool as it would with a cooler, but it must cool off quite a bit. As for the lag, I didn't see much with that Avalanche!
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Last edited by Texasscout; Jun 2, 2006 at 02:33 PM.
I work with a guy who's son's GTO has this setup. He loves it. He has never had any problems. He told me it had it's own oil supply and cooler. I haven't checked into it myself but sounds like a neat idea. He said it was way easy to install/service or remove it you needed to.
