50 state legal FI??
Originally Posted by sentry65
If I lived in CA, my setup wouldn't pass CA emissions with my vortech.
I'm not using the stock vortech fuel system which was CARB approved. They'd pop my hood, see my fuel pressure regulator and that'd be an instant fail even if I did pass the OBDII scan and the sniffer test. I wouldn't pass visual.....unless things were hidden REALLY well and in weird places
In CA, if a cop pulled me over and wanted to pop my hood - (from all the vortech sounds this would be inevitable), he'd see the CARB sticker, but notice all the different fuel system stuff and send me off to "fix" it.
This has happened to people with modified vortech setups in CA
in addition to the fuel system, I'm not using the stock cats or stock vortech pulley which would also fail visual inspection. I don't think cams are CARB approved either, but they probably wouldn't notice those. Also I don't know if the rpms you set your idle to has any bearing on emissions testing in CA or not either...
I'm not using the stock vortech fuel system which was CARB approved. They'd pop my hood, see my fuel pressure regulator and that'd be an instant fail even if I did pass the OBDII scan and the sniffer test. I wouldn't pass visual.....unless things were hidden REALLY well and in weird places
In CA, if a cop pulled me over and wanted to pop my hood - (from all the vortech sounds this would be inevitable), he'd see the CARB sticker, but notice all the different fuel system stuff and send me off to "fix" it.
This has happened to people with modified vortech setups in CA
in addition to the fuel system, I'm not using the stock cats or stock vortech pulley which would also fail visual inspection. I don't think cams are CARB approved either, but they probably wouldn't notice those. Also I don't know if the rpms you set your idle to has any bearing on emissions testing in CA or not either...
). So I am not gonna take any chances. The power the Vortech kit makes as is will be just fine for what I want. 
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the vortech, headers, exhaust, spacer/plenum, and tune would make a nice improvement in power and still be completely CARB legal. You can maybe even try pushing things with the 3.12 pulley and go back to the 3.33 when it's time for emissions. I seriously doubt a cop would know the difference between pulleys, but emissions testing will
Though, honestly the stillen kit would probably be a faster overall setup at low power levels and have more overall power since you won't be able to really open up the vortech and stay CARB legal
You can always invest in a 3.9 final drive with the vortech though. That'd be perfectly legal and give you some good oomph. With the stillen though, it might be trickier to get traction with the 3.9
Though, honestly the stillen kit would probably be a faster overall setup at low power levels and have more overall power since you won't be able to really open up the vortech and stay CARB legal
You can always invest in a 3.9 final drive with the vortech though. That'd be perfectly legal and give you some good oomph. With the stillen though, it might be trickier to get traction with the 3.9
Originally Posted by imalazeeass
do they really look at the pulleys on the vortech for emissions? Do they like look up the carb # and see exactly what the carb says or do they just look to see a carb #?
Hopefully they give me some good figures.
Thanks Marty! I've heard a lot of really good things about them. I called them and I also talked to Scott @ Relentless. One way or another, I will be FI!!!
Originally Posted by imalazeeass
do they really look at the pulleys on the vortech for emissions? Do they like look up the carb # and see exactly what the carb says or do they just look to see a carb #?
I doubt they look at much beyond the CARB number. The big test is the sniffer.
Originally Posted by ttrank
I doubt they look at much beyond the CARB number. The big test is the sniffer.
very true. How is a cop going to know if the rail is modify or not or if u have bigger injectors or the pulleys are smaller? Passing emissons is the only big test.
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It's gonna be a bday present to myself!
Nice.. I wish I could do that but my bday gift to myself are just some apr widebody and new wheels
.. I guess i can do an super early xmas present to myself and catch up with u FI guys..haha 
Originally Posted by martyg35
Nice.. I wish I could do that but my bday gift to myself are just some apr widebody and new wheels .. I guess i can do an super early xmas present to myself and catch up with u FI guys..haha
.. I guess i can do an super early xmas present to myself and catch up with u FI guys..haha
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Originally Posted by martyg35
Nice.. I wish I could do that but my bday gift to myself are just some apr widebody and new wheels .. I guess i can do an super early xmas present to myself and catch up with u FI guys..haha
.. I guess i can do an super early xmas present to myself and catch up with u FI guys..haha You can either drop the APR WideBody and go get FI
Just the Kit and labor on those Widebody can cost you lots of $$$$$