Just getting test pipes and some gauges installed

 

This is just an observation!! I am not calling anyone out or defending any of these shops.
After reading this post, I went back to the SGP post, and if you look carefully..you will see the same pattern....A person that makes a name for himself online leaves that shop and the mud slinging starts and a business gets injured The person that leaves...opens another shop and all of a sudden that shop is the best I use track record of a business and even speaking to previous customers before I spend my cash. Like I said...I am not defending SGP or VRT. I live in TX and my car is being built in GA!

 

Your point is very valid, and its a very good observation. From what I've seen, a lot of the mudslinging has been from disgruntled customers, not between the actual shop owners.
In my original post, I should've been clear, in that I was not speaking against GTM, but recommending Relentless as another shop worth checking out. And you getting your car built in GA....good Lord that's quite a drive!

 

Dont get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with your post.Matter of fact, now that I have looked at it again, I should not have quoted your post But after I saw your post...it rang a bell about the SGP Thread and how they were thrashed and now the same is happening to VRT. They both may deserve this, but its not for me to deside, I was never a customer of theirs.
My "G" is being trucked to Forged

 

XKR-If look closer at both threads (about SGP and VRT) there is a lot more going on there than just a disgruntled customer (SGP thread) and a disgruntled ex-employee (VRT thread). In the SGP thread, the OP was a guy who used to praise SGP and had nothing but good things to say about them. But then after multi incidents and his vehicle not being fixed as promised, things changed. It took tuners from PF and GTM to fix everything that SGP did wrong. In the VRT thread, it's an ex-mechanic coming out and letting people know how VRT operates. The only problem is that we all already knew most of this. Stories had been floating around already and he simply verified what most of us already knew. Also, in both threads, multiple people came out telling their stories/experiences of getting screwed by both shops. It simply isn't just the OP making claims, it's multiple people coming out. Bottom line is you MUST do a lot of research before deciding to take a huge step like going FI. There are a lot of good shops out there BUT there are also a lot of shady/bad shops out there too.

 

I agree..but like I said, the thrashing that SGP and VRT are receiving may or may not be justified, but my point was people are leaving these companies..opening new shops and automatically getting instant credibility I have waited 3 years (2004 G)to decide who will get my money. If we were talking about $500 to $2000 bolt-ons...I would not even bother to post..but we are talking about 25K,35K +. I am also in the Porsche family, and don't let anyone fool you....these things happen over there also. A tech leaves a big name Porsche shop and then opens his own shop, all of a sudden the name calling starts, and then soon after things start to go bad at the new store and customer really get hurt in the wallet. Like I said...I agree with you .. RESEARCH and ask around before sinking money into this FI game.

 

Regardless of who you go to, what XKR and Hexxum both stated are pretty much what you NEED to do before getting into FI. Personally, I've researched the different things about what goes into FI, and I feel that I haven't learned more than 10% of what you need to know. Then I researched shops to go to, and I talked to each shop. In the end, for me, I'm planning on going with Relentless. the customer feedback I've received through PMs did help, I'll admit. But moreso, it has to do with my goals I have with the car, and the answers I've received in discussions with him.

I digressed a bit, but the point I wanted to make is that before planning on any engine mod, be it turbo or headers or whatever....research what you're going to do and who you're taking it to before spending your hard earned money.

 

Most of the shops over at my350Z and here have all made mistakes . Most of them get swept under the rug to save the shop from being hurt . My motor was redone by the shop that built it because they didnt do it right and I didnt get what I asked for . Most of these shops stretch the truth at one time or the other on thier build and dyno's .to make them selve look better and to get more buisness .
If half of what VRT's been accused of doing is true . They dont need to be in buisness . So its good that this stuff comes out about all the shops . When the shop takes care of it the right way . That shop plans on staying around and cares about the buisness they get and the people that give them that buisness

 

And the hits just keep coming.

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283504

 

I totally agee...i just wished I did more research or waitd more. I too jumped on the VRT bandwagon when they first came out. Not to say that Relentless is the same...Mark (ex-VRT) is suppose to be one of the best VQ techs out there.

I've heard good this about GTM. They seem to be the place to go now on West coast...but wasnt VRT at one time? How long has GTM been around?

Anyways this is a good thread that summarizes all the VRT complaints....I've heard from one of the OP and other customers that suits are on the way.

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283047

 

I think Sam has been around for 3 years but he supplies nearly all the good shops with his motors which in itself speaks volumes.

 

Not ALL the good shops . We also suply some shops with our built VQ motors. But, yes GTM is doing some good things.

 

I did say NEARLY all.....

 

I know, and you are right. Just messing with you.

 

I might have missed it in all the reading but does GTM have a website? I want to check out their work. I won't lie I had plans (God willing) to do some work by the end of next year at VRT. This is definitely an eye opener.