turbo vs supercharger? mods needed for either?
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turbo vs supercharger? mods needed for either?
I was reading up and noticed that twin turbos and some turbo systems need different mods to handle all the power, for the supercharger on the other hand not many things needed? what is the main differences? i want more power in the G but not sure to learn twords turbo or super charger? also i have read that the G can handle 9psi on s/c or turbo without having to upgrade anything is that true? I did a search and couldn't find anything so im posting 
btw anyone ever use both in there G? which did u like best and why?
and does it void any warrantys from the manufacturer?
btw anyone ever use both in there G? which did u like best and why?
and does it void any warrantys from the manufacturer?
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well, yes it voids warranty. you would need mods to go with both turbo/sc.. also it depends on how much power you are trying to make. all this info is posted on this forum. you didn't search well enough, go read through the forced induction section you will find all you need, and my350z and read ''how to do twins right the first time''...
Only one that will not void warranty is the Stillen SC... all others will say buh bye to your warranty pretty much...
SC is generally safer to your engine and hits more linier where as the turbo hits more all at once and is harder on your tranny and internals.
I have been running a Vortech at 9psi / 400+ Rwhp for 45K miles and could not be happier.
SC is generally safer to your engine and hits more linier where as the turbo hits more all at once and is harder on your tranny and internals.
I have been running a Vortech at 9psi / 400+ Rwhp for 45K miles and could not be happier.
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Originally Posted by Triji
Only one that will not void warranty is the Stillen SC... all others will say buh bye to your warranty pretty much...
SC is generally safer to your engine and hits more linier where as the turbo hits more all at once and is harder on your tranny and internals.
I have been running a Vortech at 9psi / 400+ Rwhp for 45K miles and could not be happier.
SC is generally safer to your engine and hits more linier where as the turbo hits more all at once and is harder on your tranny and internals.
I have been running a Vortech at 9psi / 400+ Rwhp for 45K miles and could not be happier.
It is a roots style and is very linier in pull... if you install their basic kit your warranty is good i believe (keep searching to be sure) Stillen also has a really good warranty as well.
Check with your local dealer but I know many dealers that carry the Stillen kit as well.
Check with your local dealer but I know many dealers that carry the Stillen kit as well.
Technically you don't need any mods to run either. You could bolt up a greddy kit or a vortech kit with nothing else but, to get the most out of it you'll want to put full exhaust, a plenum/spacer, and a good tune. You should be able to do 400whp safely. Many have gone to 450whp with no problems.
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I could be wrong, but i think you only get the warrenty with the stillen IF you decide to purchase one from STILLEN....who apparently will handle your warrenty....if they actually will. And you HAVE to have either nissan or stillen install the kit
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SC's usually produce less torque also, so if you plan on launching it a SC might be safer than turbo.
Turbos may be a bit more expensive because of the added parts and goodies you can buy to go with it. Superchargers are pretty straight forward and pretty tough to mess up.
The best thing you can do is get a good tuner and any kit will be safe
Turbos may be a bit more expensive because of the added parts and goodies you can buy to go with it. Superchargers are pretty straight forward and pretty tough to mess up.
The best thing you can do is get a good tuner and any kit will be safe
I have had both,i had the stillen since mid 2003 up til about 4 months ago when i switched to the greddy twins.I did like the stillen for it,s instant power but it really dosent have that much power to begin with just lots of torque.
The stillen also has no room for more power past the stage4 setup,the greddy twins on the other hand has tons of expansion room for more power.I am only running 6psi right now and this setup would destroy my old stillen......9psi in about a month!!!
The stillen also has no room for more power past the stage4 setup,the greddy twins on the other hand has tons of expansion room for more power.I am only running 6psi right now and this setup would destroy my old stillen......9psi in about a month!!!
I think a lot of the additional mods that you might be talking about are dependent on how much power you're planning on making, not sure where you're located but I saw this thread regarding a warranty on stock FI setups on my350z and thought you might be interested.
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268639
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268639
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i called infiniti and asked if they sold supercharges they said no, then i asked if there are any out there that wouldnt void the warranty? they said absolutly not?? anyone know other wise i cant find any indept info
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Sounds to me that you want the benefits of FI, but not the risks. There is risk everytime you modify your car from stock, thus voiding your warranty. Even if this car had a factory turbo or SC and you modified it for more power, you run the risk of something going wrong and having your warranty denied. Most of the FI guys here, including myself, have waved bye-bye to our powertrain warranties a long time ago, but it was worth it. FI is a very expensive game. You'll eventually need more than just the turbo or SC. You'll want an upgraded clutch, more rubber to put it down, better suspension to handle the faster speeds, or even better brakes to slow down faster. If you don't want the risk of voiding your warranty, then stay stock.
Originally Posted by Deang35c6
Sounds to me that you want the benefits of FI, but not the risks. There is risk everytime you modify your car from stock, thus voiding your warranty. Even if this car had a factory turbo or SC and you modified it for more power, you run the risk of something going wrong and having your warranty denied. Most of the FI guys here, including myself, have waved bye-bye to our powertrain warranties a long time ago, but it was worth it. FI is a very expensive game. You'll eventually need more than just the turbo or SC. You'll want an upgraded clutch, more rubber to put it down, better suspension to handle the faster speeds, or even better brakes to slow down faster. If you don't want the risk of voiding your warranty, then stay stock.
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I was reading up and noticed that twin turbos and some turbo systems need different mods to handle all the power, for the supercharger on the other hand not many things needed? what is the main differences? i want more power in the G but not sure to learn twords turbo or super charger? also i have read that the G can handle 9psi on s/c or turbo without having to upgrade anything is that true? I did a search and couldn't find anything so im posting
btw anyone ever use both in there G? which did u like best and why?
and does it void any warrantys from the manufacturer?
btw anyone ever use both in there G? which did u like best and why?
and does it void any warrantys from the manufacturer?
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Originally Posted by Deang35c6
Sounds to me that you want the benefits of FI, but not the risks. There is risk everytime you modify your car from stock, thus voiding your warranty. Even if this car had a factory turbo or SC and you modified it for more power, you run the risk of something going wrong and having your warranty denied. Most of the FI guys here, including myself, have waved bye-bye to our powertrain warranties a long time ago, but it was worth it. FI is a very expensive game. You'll eventually need more than just the turbo or SC. You'll want an upgraded clutch, more rubber to put it down, better suspension to handle the faster speeds, or even better brakes to slow down faster. If you don't want the risk of voiding your warranty, then stay stock.