HI guys

how is it going everybody

I have g35 and I want to build.I wanna you guys advice me . I read about a lot of turbos one of them is greddy twin
I'm looking over 600hp
what is the best turbo and why ? also how much the price it could be ? it will be good if it's in California
The first thing I will do it is setup the turbo
then i will build piece by piece like cams then clutch

Regards,

 

Check out my350Z.com for more info...

But if you are looking for over 600WHP safely expect to build the motor, upgrade your fuel system, new clutch, good EMS, decide on the right turbo kit (GTM makes some nice ones, APS Extreme is good as well, or the Jim Wolf 700BB or 800BB kit), etc... the list goes on.

Building these cars is not cheap so prepare to spend some money!!

 

what do you thank is the best and the cheapest.
what about greddy ?? and what kind of clutch is good?

 

Nothing wrong with the Greddy kit...I just prefer the others I listed.

I do beleive you will have to modify the Greddy kit some to hit your power levels...as far as being cheap and the best...well the best aint cheap, and the cheap stuff aint the best...you follow what I am saying...My motto is simple. If you cut corners you are going to pay for it in the long run anyways. Might as well do it right to begin with, or save your money and not do it all.

Look if you are on a budget you may be better off going with a Vortech Supercharger setup. You will not hit 600HP on that kit, but it will get you in the low to mid 400's. And if you keep it basic I do not think you will need too many supporting mods...Any Vortech guys want to chime in here?

 

well for 600hp power make sure you have big enough injector sizes so id say about 800cc+ make sure ur oil lines and pump are up to the power and make sure that you have a very good fuel system. to go with that kind of power you also would need a stand alone ecu like haltech. my honest advice would go with a single big turbo kit or the aps extreme twin turbo kit. the aps extreme is the most expensive but trust me i tried to cut corners and my kit didnt come with all the proper equipment and i blew a motor and the second time around its costing me lots more but now at least i know i have everything right and i know i wont blow a motor. so dont cut corners either single big turbo or aps tt.

as for the engine goes max safe output is about 420whp. if you want 600hp engine then ur looking for low to mid 500whp. the easiest way and the best way id say get a Z1 long blow fully built motor. i will be about 7-10k but it will hold as much power as you want. id say call z1 ask them for an engine that can take 550whp and go with that instead of building ur own. in the end it will be the same money as just building ur own but it will seem cheaper building ur own because its more gradual spending. then tranny, i dont know because i dont have a manual (my coupe started out a family car haha now its turboed ) with auto you get a valve body and a sprintbooster. the sprintbooster would help manual drivers aswell better throttle response.

so id say ur looking at about 7k for the turbo kit, 7k for an engine and about 5k for other things like the exhaust oil/fuel/tranny and about 5k more for install for everything. once you have all of that you need 12"inch rims/tires to support the power and ur good to go + tuning money which is very insignificant compared to everything else. brakes are important with power and so is the suspension. id say its about 20k+ to get 600hp not cheap but well worth it!

 

thank you every body
silver g do you know why I chose greddy twin first,it's work a long time I mean it doesn't brake and high quality.secondly,I found it cheaper than others 4600$ but others are around 6000$
thanks again
zeidik I dont agree with aps because turbos under the car but the greddy near a engine also the greddy is familiar and we use it in my country but aps I heard about it in America only.... also about single turbo are there any workshops can do the pipes I mean someone make pipes for the inter cooler and turbo exhaust because I'm from dubai and I jsut came from dubai for a couple days. There are a lot of workshop do the pipes you should just bring turbo,inter cooler, wastage and bov if you want.If you have any idea about these shops plz tell me
my plan
install the turbo first then engine parts (cams,valve,pistons,clutch,oil pump,fuel system) about tuning
we use motic,what about here.
last thing am gonna do it the exterior
(hood,rims,brakes,body kite)
any ways thank you for info

 

hope u dont get pulled over or its' all over for u

 

for clutch we use OS Giken
Is there os clutch for g35 ??

 

Here is a good place to start researching:

http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...for-noobs.html

There is no "best" turbo. Different turbos are good for different applications. I reached over 600 rwhp with twin Greddy 18g's. They are good for street use and 1/4 mi. use, but not necessarily for road racing because they are not water cooled. For that reason I sold my Greddy TT kit and purchased a GTM TT kit with Garret turbos.

When I bought my Greddy TT kit, it was a reasonable value. However, they have significantly increased their pricing and now there are better values to be had. Since you are in CA, check with GT Motorsports in Rancho Cucamonga.

 

Hello,

If you would like to consider our turbo systems I am sure you will be very pleased with the quality, power delivery, flexibility, and price of our turbo kit.

Here is a link for your convenience: http://www.gtmotorsports.com/home.php?cat=319

We are also located in California and would love for you to stop by and check out the shop if you have time, just let us know!

-George
GT Motorsports
909.481.4300

 

oh i didnt know the aps had the turbos under the car! when i saw someone with that kit they where near the engine close to engine right passed the headers... if greddy has the turbos up then for sure go with that one!

my opinion go with a custom single turbo. its usually the best way at least thats wat i go from personal experience, its just hard to find that shop that will do a good job with the piping and making sure there are no air leaks and most shops dont use v-clamps and they really need to! if you can find a shop that fabricates they usually with have very good intercoolers. most kits intercoolers are about 1000$usd and they are about half the size of wat you could get for that money from a good shop. i asked the shop for how much my intercooler was worth to them and they said 300$ i payed 1000$ from the kit.

i bought the sts rear mounted turbo for 5500$USD
installed for 1200$

^that blew my motor! so then

new engine 1500$
oil lines w/install 500$
fuel return lines/fuel regulator w/install 1000$
ecu 2000$
tune 500$
injectors and fuel rail w/install 900$
moved turbo to the front with pipes 1200$

thats my experience lol... and custom is working much better then the kit but thats cuz the kit wasnt the best to begin with.

btw id say get brakes first you have no idea how important they are!!! if you dont want to spend to much money but still get good brakes id say Rotora.

and with rims dont go cheap i did that and wen i got the turbo i had to thin of tires to grip so i needed to get rims for a second time lol... rear tire size at least 275 on a 10 inch wide rear rim minimum, for 600hp id say get a 12 inch wide rims with at least 295mm tires. dont go on 20 inch rims they get heavy and the tires very expensive!

for the ecu you have to go stand alone!
for the power you need an oil cooler aswell and a new rad with silicone piping
also you might need a cooling kit like aquamist or others.
might need a new type of rear axes too!

either way if you want factory stable 600hp you are looking at 20,000$ to 30,000$ easy!

GOOD LUCK i hope you go through with it we need more Gs/Zs pushing big power!

 

As you noted, getting custom piping done can be a big PITA, not to mention the increase in pricing over a kit. If money is not object, sure, go custom. If money is of concern, it generally is less expensive to use an off-the-shelf kit. I was very, very interested in doing a custom turbo setup, but opted insted for an off-the-shelf kit because it did not appear to me that the added cost and headache of a custom turbo setup was worth the price.

Also, a single turbo is good for some, while a twin turbo setup is good for others. It all depends on the OP's goals. One should not summarily say that a "single" turbo is the best without understanding the OP's goals. Indeed, from what I have seen here in the forums, for street and road course use, twin turbos seem to be the way to go, while there have been some single turbo builds that work great for drag racing.

In summary, OP, determine what your goals are and how much you want to spend, then evaluate the different solutions that are available within your budjet.

 

YOu are in Cali....just go by GTM and look at the cars they have...nothing is better than seeing it yourself...

 

+1, if you are in Cali, go to GTM. And I wouldn't consider doing it piece-by-piece as you say. Labor is too expensive with these cars because everything is such a tight fit. Do it all at once. Build the motor, get the cams, clutch, turbo kit all done so you only have to drop the motor once. It will end up being less expensive in the long run - and you'll have a single shop backing up all of your work, which is priceless.

Top bolt on twin kits (IMO) are: GTM, GTM, GTM, APS Extreme, Greddy 20G tuner, Sound Performance. I wouldn't consider any others - these have proven themselves on built motors.

 

Best thing you could do. I would venture to say most of us who bought APS or Greddy would do a GTM or powerlabs etc turbo kit now.


However I would plan on at least spending 30,000 in upgrades and labor.

And I would definitely not break your savings account doing it, because stuff will break and you'll need to fix it. (duh)

It's a long expensive journey- however it'll probably be a little easier being in cali... I don't know the laws there but ironically enough it seems the best places are out there.

Good luck with the build. Don't cut corners and do it right.