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I am not pushing any one particular kit as that should be your decision, but I think the greddy gets to much of a bad rap. Below is a post from a very knowlegable member from my350z.com. I could have not put it better myself.
Keep in mind that if your goals are 400whp or so you don't need any tuning for the APS TT as it already comes tuned out of the box. Tuning is only required if you add test pipes or plan on building the motor for more power. If you are planning on building your motor APS is working on an upgraded fuel system that will support more than 500whp. This system will include new actuators. And for the record if I had an authorized unichip near me, I would have bought the APS TT only because they use ball bearing turbos and they are supposed to have bulletproof reliablilty. I don't care about the fuel sytem the APS has because I have already a fuel return with fail rails which the APS TT does not have.
The greddy is a great kit just not as idiot proof as the APS.
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If people have this complete setup, and proper tuning, the Greddy kits would not be blowing up. Ask SGP Racing how many Greddy kits they have installed, and how many have blown up. I will bet you the answer is none. A good example of how proper tuning and installation is so critical.
In my opinion, the biggest drawbacks to the APS are as follows:
1) Lack of good tuning options. Must be taken to a Unichip/APS dealer for tuning. Some of the best tuners in the country are not APS/Unichip dealers, and will be unable to tune this car. Before buying the kit, just make sure you have a good tuner nearby, that can tune the Unchip
2) Internal wastegates can only boost 10-12psi without significant upgrades and cost. (keep this mind if you plan on building your motor, and running higher boost levels)
3) Dealers have VERY limited inventory...meaning most have none.
And it may shock you to know, that we make more money on the APS kits, vs. the Greddy kits. So I am telling you this, not becuase I am trying to push a higher margin kit. If so...I would pushing the hell out of the APS kits.
In the end, its about setting your goals, and deciding between several very good options. Each with its pros and cons.
Originally Posted by gq_626
As mentioned, the APS kit is most complete, but still not perfect. When you add up the cost of the greddy kit, plus a return fuel system, walbro 255, and timing harness, you are still several hundred dollars cheaper than the APS kit. Greddy already comes with larger 440cc injectors rates at the industry standard 43psi, vs. the 500cc injectors that APS uses, but rated at 52psi. Essentially, they come with the same size injectors, if flowed at the same fuel pressure.If people have this complete setup, and proper tuning, the Greddy kits would not be blowing up. Ask SGP Racing how many Greddy kits they have installed, and how many have blown up. I will bet you the answer is none. A good example of how proper tuning and installation is so critical.
In my opinion, the biggest drawbacks to the APS are as follows:
1) Lack of good tuning options. Must be taken to a Unichip/APS dealer for tuning. Some of the best tuners in the country are not APS/Unichip dealers, and will be unable to tune this car. Before buying the kit, just make sure you have a good tuner nearby, that can tune the Unchip
2) Internal wastegates can only boost 10-12psi without significant upgrades and cost. (keep this mind if you plan on building your motor, and running higher boost levels)
3) Dealers have VERY limited inventory...meaning most have none.
And it may shock you to know, that we make more money on the APS kits, vs. the Greddy kits. So I am telling you this, not becuase I am trying to push a higher margin kit. If so...I would pushing the hell out of the APS kits.
In the end, its about setting your goals, and deciding between several very good options. Each with its pros and cons.
Keep in mind that if your goals are 400whp or so you don't need any tuning for the APS TT as it already comes tuned out of the box. Tuning is only required if you add test pipes or plan on building the motor for more power. If you are planning on building your motor APS is working on an upgraded fuel system that will support more than 500whp. This system will include new actuators. And for the record if I had an authorized unichip near me, I would have bought the APS TT only because they use ball bearing turbos and they are supposed to have bulletproof reliablilty. I don't care about the fuel sytem the APS has because I have already a fuel return with fail rails which the APS TT does not have.
The greddy is a great kit just not as idiot proof as the APS.
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Peter,
Will the guys that want more than 500whp be able to buy the APS TT with the upgraded fuel system and actuators on the first purchase or will they have to buy the basic APS TT and then pay for the upgraded fuel system? It would be nice if APS gave their customers the choice of which fuel system that got when they ordered their kits. This way they would not have to pay for a fuel system that they don't intend on using. If there is a price difference then you can charge a little more with the upgrade system.
Will the guys that want more than 500whp be able to buy the APS TT with the upgraded fuel system and actuators on the first purchase or will they have to buy the basic APS TT and then pay for the upgraded fuel system? It would be nice if APS gave their customers the choice of which fuel system that got when they ordered their kits. This way they would not have to pay for a fuel system that they don't intend on using. If there is a price difference then you can charge a little more with the upgrade system.
Tony whats your email so i can send you a pix or how do you post pics from your pc if they dont have a url. I tried to post them but they dont work. I dont have a url to post "[img] dont have a url pics are on my pc in a folder [img]"
Thanks Gman2004 that was by far the best analysis i have read. What do you know about power enterprise tt,jwt tt,and sfr tt? Do you have anymore information like this referring to these kits?
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Originally Posted by pbstyle
Tony whats your email so i can send you a pix or how do you post pics from your pc if they dont have a url. I tried to post them but they dont work. I dont have a url to post "[img] dont have a url pics are on my pc in a folder [img]"
my email is tonyabrom@hotmail.com