Forced Induction Discussion of turbos , superchargers , and nitrous upgrades on the G35

Vortech Finally Tuned

Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OldVFRGuy
Heres the graph.....

As far as mods, I have:

Motordyne Plenum Spacer
Kinteix HF Cats
Gruppe S Y Pipe
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Greddy SP2 Rear Muffler

Randy,

I think that the dyno # is a base for reference in tuning. To get meaningful data, you need to re dyno on the same machine everytime so it is consistant.

I really didn't care if it made 350...I just wanted it stable and safe.When we started, my base dyno run with the Vortech out of the box, pig rich program was right at 330 hp. So proper tuning can get you a lot of HP.
They got my AF line very smooth.

Damn with all those mods, u are still seeing 8psi??? I have heard ppl complaining about how with adding extra air flow you decrease the back pressure causing you to not reach the max psi.

Also, does your rattle at idle and did u change the belt?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_pharmD
Damn with all those mods, u are still seeing 8psi??? I have heard ppl complaining about how with adding extra air flow you decrease the back pressure causing you to not reach the max psi.

Also, does your rattle at idle and did u change the belt?
I had them install the Gates belt....and I went to the Nissan dealer and had them raise my idle to around 850 rpm.

It is prety quiet now......
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_pharmD
Damn with all those mods, u are still seeing 8psi??? I have heard ppl complaining about how with adding extra air flow you decrease the back pressure causing you to not reach the max psi.

Also, does your rattle at idle and did u change the belt?
that is exactly the prob I am having...Injen exhaust + Kinetix hi flo cats = max boost of 5.7lbs. That is why I'm only seeing 340hp at the wheels and only 305ftlbs. Thinking about moving to a Y-pipe and stock exhaust...but the Injen exhaust looks SOOOOO sexy in the rear.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Randys_G
here you go...
Whats going on at 6000rpms?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Whats going on at 6000rpms?
well, that's not my graph, just OLDVFRGUY's graph turned right side up, but I'd assume that's a RICH point that needs to be leaned out a bit. The SS software tunes AF by 500RPM's and it's real tricky to get it perfect...
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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I was thinking a bit of knock causing the ecm to pull timing..We need to see his A/F's..
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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No.....we triple checked it after this pull.

It is just a small hickup in the inductive tach hook up that you see on this graph.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OldVFRGuy
No.....we triple checked it after this pull.

It is just a small hickup in the inductive tach hook up that you see on this graph.
Why would that cause a hiccup on power output? Im guessing it blipped while reading RPM?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
I was thinking a bit of knock causing the ecm to pull timing..We need to see his A/F's..
I've seen knock on a dyno graph and the hiccup is much more apparent...BTW, did you get my PM?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Randys_G
I've seen knock on a dyno graph and the hiccup is much more apparent...BTW, did you get my PM?
Yes I did,thanks..Perhaps belt slippage?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Yes I did,thanks..Perhaps belt slippage?
so you got my PM...do you plan to call me?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Randys_G
that is exactly the prob I am having...Injen exhaust + Kinetix hi flo cats = max boost of 5.7lbs. That is why I'm only seeing 340hp at the wheels and only 305ftlbs. Thinking about moving to a Y-pipe and stock exhaust...but the Injen exhaust looks SOOOOO sexy in the rear.
Randy, everything I've been told is that increased air flow will decrease boost BUT it will also increase overall power and torque.

If you restrict your exhaust some, your boost might rise but you 'might' also lose a little bit of performance?

I guess it would be interesting to see how this works, especially after Esemes switched from his Borla TD to the Fujitsubo and he gained hp.

BTW, have you checked your belt to see if it's super tight?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by neffster
Randy, everything I've been told is that increased air flow will decrease boost BUT it will also increase overall power and torque.

If you restrict your exhaust some, your boost might rise but you 'might' also lose a little bit of performance?

I guess it would be interesting to see how this works, especially after Esemes switched from his Borla TD to the Fujitsubo and he gained hp.

BTW, have you checked your belt to see if it's super tight?
I haven't in 15,000 miles...maybe I should...
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Randy,
I've seen that a TD exhaust can be to big for an NA application.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...7&d=1127591945

I was told some TDs are to big for SC applications. Maybe adding the X-pipe will give just enough backpressure to raise your boost and still allow you to gain power.

I'm talking to Exhaust Depot to have a custom Stainless Steel tig welded X-pipe made for my Invidia G200.
http://www.exhaustdepot.net/12unxpipsec.html
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by G35StrongMan
Randy,
I've seen that a TD exhaust can be to big for an NA application.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...7&d=1127591945

I was told some TDs are to big for SC applications. Maybe adding the X-pipe will give just enough backpressure to raise your boost and still allow you to gain power.

I'm talking to Exhaust Depot to have a custom Stainless Steel tig welded X-pipe made for my Invidia G200.
http://www.exhaustdepot.net/12unxpipsec.html
do you plan on doing any before and after testing? I ask because I've already researched this and those I went to seemed to think that nothing would be accomplished in doing this...including Dave O with SportZ magazine, Magnaflow and a few other people i deem experts in this field...now, if you have proof of theory, that superceeds all of their OPINIONS!
 
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