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Old 12-15-2007, 04:38 PM
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The rumors are strong, 2009 G37 sedan 330hp

Repost? This is third publication that has mentioned this.

We smell blood in the water. Despite our description of the BMW 330i as “the ultimate daily driver” and the newer 328i as “the best tool for driving,” a G37 sedan, rumored for release in ’09 with 330 horsepower—a full 100 more than the 328i, and for less money—could make a compelling case. Now that Nissan GT-R development is done, maybe Infiniti can grab a few NVH engineers and figure out how to convert some of that surplus fury into refinement.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...initi-g35.html

Hmmm....my interest in the 2nd gen G sedan has become much stronger
 
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:44 PM
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hmm... so whats probably gonna happen. The new engine and minor body changes maybe?
 
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This isn't all that surprising of a prediction considering the fact that the 1st gen sedan inherited the coupe's more powerful engine in its mid cycle refresh.

That said, I don't think it's going to be such a big deal. Afterall, the 330 hp will most like be accompanied by more weight and the performance will not be noticeably improved (just as the G37 currently performs no better than the G35).

Now, if Nissan added the 3.7L motor with upgraded direct injection, I'd be very interested as that would mean at least 350 hp along w/ a definite improvement in fuel economy.
 
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:25 PM
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the 3.7 motor in the sedan Should actually be a pretty decent performance increase. That is of course if weight doesnt drasticly increase, and it shouldnt.

I still would love to see more torque then anything. Adjust the gearing or w/e they have to do to just get some stronger accelaration out this car.
 
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Son of a bitch...
 
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
This isn't all that surprising of a prediction considering the fact that the 1st gen sedan inherited the coupe's more powerful engine in its mid cycle refresh.

That said, I don't think it's going to be such a big deal. Afterall, the 330 hp will most like be accompanied by more weight and the performance will not be noticeably improved (just as the G37 currently performs no better than the G35).

Now, if Nissan added the 3.7L motor with upgraded direct injection, I'd be very interested as that would mean at least 350 hp along w/ a definite improvement in fuel economy.

i think you have no idea what you are talking about. for 30 or so extra horses, the 37 has very noticeable power improvement. it is much more responsive in low rpms and builds power much more quickly than my 35 ever did.

edit: .5 second improvement 0-60 and about the same in the quarter mile is by no means a small feat or a miminal improvement in performance.
 

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wonder how much the price increase would be if this is true...
 
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wonder how much the price increase would be if this is true...
i'm thinking they will offer both engines--the 3.7 at a premium...kind of the same structure as bmw does with their 3 series.
 
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Originally Posted by speedracerg35
i'm thinking they will offer both engines--the 3.7 at a premium...kind of the same structure as bmw does with their 3 series.
Highly doubt thats going to happen. Do you think an increase of 24 HP is worth the differentiation of cars? Nope. Its going to be a G37, or nothing.
 
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Originally Posted by speedracerg35
i think you have no idea what you are talking about. for 30 or so extra horses, the 37 has very noticeable power improvement. it is much more responsive in low rpms and builds power much more quickly than my 35 ever did.

edit: .5 second improvement 0-60 and about the same in the quarter mile is by no means a small feat or a miminal improvement in performance.
There's no doubt 30 addt'l hp would improve performance. However, if you read my post, I indicated there would likely be a corresponding increase in weight as virtually always happens when cars progress in their model cycle.

I then said a heavier G37 sedan would likely have minimal improvement in performance. This is evident in the fact that the heavier G37 coupe has virtually identical acceleration to the 07+ G35 sedan.

At this point, there is no objective test that indicates a G37 sedan would be .5 sec quicker from 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile than a G35 sedan. In fact, it's highly unlikely a G37 sedan would go from a 13.8-14.1 sec 1/4 mile car to a 13.3-13.6 sec 1/4 mile car with only 30 extra horses even if the weight was kept exactly the same.

If you're comparing your 1st gen G35 to the G37, there's more than a 30 hp difference in power because the G37's 330 hp rating is based on the more conservative SAE net rev 8/04 rating whereas the G35 coupe's 298 hp is based on the old rating method. Thus, the actual difference in power between your G35 and the G37 is likely over 40+ hp. That, and the fact that the VQHR motor has been heavily revised with a wider powerband and higher redline is why the G37 is a good 1/2 sec quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile than your car.

I'm curious to know what I've stated that you feel is inaccurate or would indicate I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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Old 12-15-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracerg35
i think you have no idea what you are talking about. for 30 or so extra horses, the 37 has very noticeable power improvement. it is much more responsive in low rpms and builds power much more quickly than my 35 ever did.

edit: .5 second improvement 0-60 and about the same in the quarter mile is by no means a small feat or a miminal improvement in performance.

Maybe your 35 is the last gen. But the 3.5HR is by no means .5 second the g37 in any anything.
 
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interesting. 06 coupe to an 09 sedan 3.7? i will look into that.
 
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I would take an 09 sedan over an 06 coupe hands down.
 
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They better up the power and decrease the weight, they are getting SMOKED by the 335.
 
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They better up the power and decrease the weight, they are getting SMOKED by the 335.
...Aluminum hood, roof and trunk, maybe some carbon fibre & kevlar driveshafts, carbon fibre shell sport seats with aluminum sub structure both front and back. Lighten it up where possible without increasing cost (significantly or at all if possible).

Cut out the luxury items such as NAV, cameras, and anything else not driving related, but leave the comfort and convenience items (who wants manual windows, no stereo and no a/c?).

Reduce the Noise, Vibration and Harshness and make that motor buttery smooth (counterbalance???) so that the magazine reviews have nothing to complain about.

...just a few thoughts.
 


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