Lets take a step back and consider the G37 sedan.
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01-18-2008 | 11:36 PM
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RWHP according to automobile magazine for the G37 6MT is 287. For a G35 Coupe on the same dyno, their number is 236. I've seen stock G35 sedan dynos at 245. For fun, let's assume the current sedan weighs 3500lbs. This means:
14.3 pounds per horsepower vs. 12.2 pounds per horsepower, assuming the engine weighs about the same. That's a significant difference not to be ignored or dismissed.
Additionally, my average MPG is 2mpg higher in my 08 G37 vs. my previous 2006 G35, both 6mt.
So, the new engine produces more horsepower on less fuel. It also has much improved low-end torque, as you can see in the dyno overlays on this page:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rts/index.html
The only point that might be worth something is the new technology in the engine. V-VEL is in fact new to the G37 engine and thus is unknown. It could start blowing up like grenades or it could be more reliable than the older motor, which has a history of oil consumption issues.
In summary... I call B.S. on most of the original post.
14.3 pounds per horsepower vs. 12.2 pounds per horsepower, assuming the engine weighs about the same. That's a significant difference not to be ignored or dismissed.
Additionally, my average MPG is 2mpg higher in my 08 G37 vs. my previous 2006 G35, both 6mt.
So, the new engine produces more horsepower on less fuel. It also has much improved low-end torque, as you can see in the dyno overlays on this page:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rts/index.html
The only point that might be worth something is the new technology in the engine. V-VEL is in fact new to the G37 engine and thus is unknown. It could start blowing up like grenades or it could be more reliable than the older motor, which has a history of oil consumption issues.
In summary... I call B.S. on most of the original post.
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01-19-2008 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mal_TX
RWHP according to automobile magazine for the G37 6MT is 287. For a G35 Coupe on the same dyno, their number is 236. I've seen stock G35 sedan dynos at 245. For fun, let's assume the current sedan weighs 3500lbs. This means:
14.3 pounds per horsepower vs. 12.2 pounds per horsepower, assuming the engine weighs about the same. That's a significant difference not to be ignored or dismissed.
Additionally, my average MPG is 2mpg higher in my 08 G37 vs. my previous 2006 G35, both 6mt.
So, the new engine produces more horsepower on less fuel. It also has much improved low-end torque, as you can see in the dyno overlays on this page:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rts/index.html
The only point that might be worth something is the new technology in the engine. V-VEL is in fact new to the G37 engine and thus is unknown. It could start blowing up like grenades or it could be more reliable than the older motor, which has a history of oil consumption issues.
In summary... I call B.S. on most of the original post.
14.3 pounds per horsepower vs. 12.2 pounds per horsepower, assuming the engine weighs about the same. That's a significant difference not to be ignored or dismissed.
Additionally, my average MPG is 2mpg higher in my 08 G37 vs. my previous 2006 G35, both 6mt.
So, the new engine produces more horsepower on less fuel. It also has much improved low-end torque, as you can see in the dyno overlays on this page:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rts/index.html
The only point that might be worth something is the new technology in the engine. V-VEL is in fact new to the G37 engine and thus is unknown. It could start blowing up like grenades or it could be more reliable than the older motor, which has a history of oil consumption issues.
In summary... I call B.S. on most of the original post.
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01-19-2008 | 12:39 AM
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01-19-2008 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Ryte
What about the SR20VE? That had VVL from late 90's....
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01-19-2008 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bruddahmanmatt
Different systems. VVL used hydraulic pressure switch between two sets of cam lobes to vary timing, lift and duration. This system was similar to Honda's VTEC system. However, like VTEC it was a two step system and not infinitely variable like VVEL or Valvetronic. With VVEL, the system uses an arrangement of links to actuate the valves. These links have their fulcrums continuously adjusted by a control shaft driven by a DC motor to determine how much lift the output cam places on the lifters. Toyota (Valvematic) and Honda (Advanced VTEC or AVTEC) have both announced similar systems to be implemented in the near future.
Man, completely forgot about that. The "variable" in the variable lift was either regular or extended (forgot the exact numbers). The NeoVVL in the SR20VE doesn't have anywhere near the range that the VQ37VHR VVEL has.
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01-24-2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UltimateGee27
didnt seem that bad to me....ive seen much worst on Driver.
Nice write up non the less. I dont really think its a big deal to anyone if its a 35 or 37 at this stage in the game seeing as tho the power increase isnt that much and performance difference is minimal.
IMO I like the sound of 35 as oposed to 37 lol
But then again i like the sound of 63 as oposed to 55
Nice write up non the less. I dont really think its a big deal to anyone if its a 35 or 37 at this stage in the game seeing as tho the power increase isnt that much and performance difference is minimal.
IMO I like the sound of 35 as oposed to 37 lol
But then again i like the sound of 63 as oposed to 55
Like me!!!
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02-16-2012 | 12:51 PM
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I gotta admit, the 2nd Gen G35 felt MUCH more powerful and quicker than the 1st Gen G35.
However, when I went to trade my 08 G35x for a new G37x, I did NOT feel much of a power/performance difference at all.
This came as a shock to me, but I was very happy to keep that money and redirect it towards my GTR fund. LoL
(I'm hoping for a Infiniti version of the GTR with 4 doors and a magnetorheological dampening suspension with adjustability.)
But, I will do the same evaluation on the next gen AWD G sedan.
DSG, performance AWD, and a Mercedes 6.3L, and FOLD FLAT REAR SEATS in a G sedan would be a "must buy" for me.
However, when I went to trade my 08 G35x for a new G37x, I did NOT feel much of a power/performance difference at all.
This came as a shock to me, but I was very happy to keep that money and redirect it towards my GTR fund. LoL
(I'm hoping for a Infiniti version of the GTR with 4 doors and a magnetorheological dampening suspension with adjustability.)
But, I will do the same evaluation on the next gen AWD G sedan.
DSG, performance AWD, and a Mercedes 6.3L, and FOLD FLAT REAR SEATS in a G sedan would be a "must buy" for me.
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