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Gas and performance 93 vs 89 no differance

Old Feb 13, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by G35Pinoy
i dont know if this matters but sometimes i do but low grade... maybe once in 1 month or 1 every two months when im running a little low on money....does it matter if different grades of gas mix??
it really won't matter if you mix different grades.

But I always use 93 oct.....its maybe 20cents more.(a whole $4.00 difference for 20 gallons of petro)
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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well when the G is geting 13mpg like mine does right now,,,I dont really want to spend $4 extra for this gas cow if I dont have to.......
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Repeated use of lower octane rated fuel can cause detonation on higher compression motors.

Key work CAN!!!

I ran 89 in mines after the hurricane and did not see a difference but better safe than sorry. I ran 89 in my 2003 Acura TL for week and immediately I heard knocking..so that just goes to show you
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Callaway
If you can't afford to put 91+ in your car, you don't deserve to own it. I don't give a crap what your butt dyno tells you.
I feel so exclusive now...with 4 year old car which costs about $17,000 USD...
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by obender66
I feel so exclusive now...with 4 year old car which costs about $17,000 USD...



lol no ****,,,, people on here talk about their G's like they are some rare Ferrari or something when in fact its a cheap Entry Level Lexury sports car.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitialex
lol no ****,,,, people on here talk about their G's like they are some rare Ferrari or something when in fact its a cheap Entry Level Lexury sports car.
true but some people make them even cheaper appearing with their grapefruit launcher ebay mufflers.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
true but some people make them even cheaper appearing with their grapefruit launcher ebay mufflers.
hahahahahaha, sLOL

props on that one...

i use chevron 91 because i dont like to hear knocking when i walk away from my car...
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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I don't know how many times I have to say this, but once again, 87-89 octane will not harm these engines. Lower octane fuels aren't "dirtier" either. Like someone pointed out earlier, octane is a fuel's resistance to detonation (ie it's resistance to burn). The higher the octane, the harder it is to burn. High compression motors, like the VQ35, create high combustion chamber temps, therefore it is recommended to use higher octane fuels. That doesn't mean it's required though because the engine's knock sensor can yank timing and richen the A/F ratio if it hears knock/detonation (even when you can't hear it).

In the winter, especially in an area that experiences sub 40 degree temps, you're not going to notice much difference because the engine typically runs a bit cooler and the intake temps are far lower. For every 10 degree drop in temps, you gain about 1% in power to a degree. However, I have found that these motors don't seem to feel as strong in sub 30 temps, especially the 0 to 10 degree weather I'm getting in Kansas City.

In the warmer months, I can guarentee you that you will slower running sub 91 octane on the track. Will you feel it? Probably not because most of the detonation will be experienced in the longer gears like 3rd where the G-forces are very minimal. Why in the longer gears? Just like in forced induced cars, more heat is generated the longer the car remains in a particular gear. It's also why many poorly tuned turbo cars wreck their motors in 4th and 5th gears.

On a Sunday cruise on highway, even in the hot weather, you won't feel a difference in power, and most likely won't a difference in MPGs because you're not running the span of the powerband.

I do wish Nissan would get off their *** and bring direct injection to the States though. They had the technology in Japan since the late 1990s and Stateside Toyota/Lexus' have it and the advantages are clear. You can run high compression (10.5:1+) on 87 octane, make killer power numbers, and improve MPGs by 15%. Add 91 octane and you'll gain an instant 10whp. This makes me even more interested in purchasing an IS350.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
...i use chevron 91 because i dont like to hear knocking when i walk away from my car...
huh? what? using a higher rating will not get rid of that noise... it's coming from your exhaust as the metal cools... lmao.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by giddyup69
huh? what? using a higher rating will not get rid of that noise... it's coming from your exhaust as the metal cools... lmao.
^LOL, WHS!!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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the dealer put 87 in my car when i first got it...i heard knocking...continued to use 87 for a month...still happened...switched to 91 and it was gone...

keep in mind i always used chevron. just reporting my experiences.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Wow, why are you guys being suck d1c%s to this poster? He just didn't exactly understand what higher octane gas does. It doesn't increase horsepower, it increases the gas's resistance to detonation. And in cold weather (South Dakota right?) cars don't have to worry about detonation nearly as much. Without detonation, the car will get full timing and reach it's (or close to it) horsepower potential.

So when all of us in CA buy premium (and spend a few extra dollars per tank; who cares) we are just either following instructions, or trying to keep our cars from knocking and then making the computer retard the timing and loose some power.

your opinion doesnt make sense. it doesnt increase horsepower, it increases the gas's resistance to detonation. yet, you said we are trying to kep our cars from knocking and then making the computer retard the timing and lose power. uhmmm hello... the whole point is the fact that if you lose lesser octane fuel theres a decrease in performance. we aint being dicks.. we are just keepin it real. why ask why? try bud dry!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitialex
Gtech is piece of ****??
You are just retarded....

Gtech is very very acurate,,,,i have used it for years,,, very usefull for telling if upgrades actualy make your car any faster...

no... its a piece of sh**
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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I dont know what this means, but when i put 89 in my car, the rpm jumps to about 1,000 upon ignition, and when i put in 94, it jumped to around 2,000.

Anyone experiencing the same thing?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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It doesn't matter if you don't get performance increase, you will most likely damage the engine if you use a less octane gas for a long period of time. Our engines are made for 91+.

If you use less than 91 you will almost be guaranteed engine pinging/knocking.
 
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