frame damage and Autocheck
#17
03-18-2010 | 11:38 PM
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Joe Mama might want to check this out. It is a news report from CBC on carfax and there lack of info. You might be shocked once you watch and see just how accurate the Autochecks were vs Carfax that they ran.
Skip the first minute that when the video starts!
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2009/v...orts/main.html
Skip the first minute that when the video starts!
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2009/v...orts/main.html
#19
03-19-2010 | 01:29 PM
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From: O'Fallon, MO
Hi everyone,
I'm in the process of buying a G35 and this forum has been a great resource. What a great community you have here! Hopefully I'll be able to contribute once/if I ever get the G35.
I have a question... I'm shopping for a used G35 and I'm finding lots of cars are tagged with "frame damage" when you check them on Autocheck. The sellers always claim ignorance and many say that it has to do with the auction house declaring them as frame damaged so as to avoid arbitration (the process where the purchaser at an auction argues with the auctioner/seller to get money back for something that wasn't disclosed). That sounds like a good story to me, but not necessarily a true story. Does anyone have any experience with this that may be able to shed light on why so many cars are tagged with "frame damage" at the auction house? Are these really damaged frames or is it just a means for sellers to protect the sale at auction?
Thanks,
Joseph Mama
I'm in the process of buying a G35 and this forum has been a great resource. What a great community you have here! Hopefully I'll be able to contribute once/if I ever get the G35.
I have a question... I'm shopping for a used G35 and I'm finding lots of cars are tagged with "frame damage" when you check them on Autocheck. The sellers always claim ignorance and many say that it has to do with the auction house declaring them as frame damaged so as to avoid arbitration (the process where the purchaser at an auction argues with the auctioner/seller to get money back for something that wasn't disclosed). That sounds like a good story to me, but not necessarily a true story. Does anyone have any experience with this that may be able to shed light on why so many cars are tagged with "frame damage" at the auction house? Are these really damaged frames or is it just a means for sellers to protect the sale at auction?
Thanks,
Joseph Mama
Joe - the seller is not going to give you an honest answer. I have a friend who is a dealer and I used to buy and resell cars with him. Every car that I saw marked as frame damage was marked prior to going up for sale. Everyone interested in purchasing it knew it had frame damage before bidding started. It was my understanding that the seller had to disclose that damage prior to the sale of the car. If that damage was found after the sale, the buyer could return it and the seller would be required to refund money. I never experienced the arbitration process first hand, but the explanation I got of the process was not to be used as a bargaining tool to get the price lowered after the sale. I am no expert, but this is some knowledge I gained from being in the Manheim auction. Not everything in the auction is junk, but the good stuff brings a premium and then you are just about to the point where you could find a private party sale for same money. Good luck.
#20
07-18-2010 | 10:01 PM
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Carfax or other companies are not a reliable source, usually in the Auction anything with more than 2mm damaged in the body is call Unibody/Frame (except if is in the doors or fenders)but sometimes you can find cars with damaged for PDR (painless dent remover)and they will call FRAME/Unibody,even little damage done for transport or other under the car are call Frame best thing to do take the car for an Inspection.
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